Long before she was married, my sister brought home a tall, successful lawyer ... who happened to arrive at my mother's dinner table with an unsettling, gun-shaped black bag. Because I'm very protective of my family (and because I'm obscenely paranoid), I considered hiding my assembled family upstairs before he got his rifle assembled, "The Professional"–style. But instead, the guy just put the bag down next to him and started chatting up my grandmother.
When the guy finally went for the bag hours later, it was worse than a sub-machine gun -- it was a magic kit. For the rest of the night, this dude did tricks; silk scarves poured from his shirt collar, and he occasionally showered us with coins. My mother and I were mortified; my grandmother, confused.
In all honesty, he was an all-around nice dude, but it was too late for him. My mom and I had decided that the relationship was over. We told my sister so, emphatically and often. She dumped him shortly thereafter, and I don't feel too terrible about it because it wasn't a love connection, as they say. But if it had been, you can bet I would not have suffered in silence about having to spend my Thanksgivings with Gob Bluth.
It's a horrible proposition, when we don't love the people the person we love loves. But the thing is, I'm pretty sure I've been on both sides of the "Dude, we hate that guy" fence. And I'm sure there's a rational way to deal with disliking your mother's boyfriend or your best friend's girl -- or being disliked yourself -- that don't involve cruel nicknames or waging elaborate prank wars.
Are you with me? Let's be diplomats.
Scenario 1: You Don't Like His Parents
The ways in which your significant other's parents can suck are so myriad the mind positively reels. Mom's icy, Dad's creepy. Mom's distant, Dad's too involved. They're passive-aggressive, or aggressive-aggressive. They're mean-spirited, they're evangelical, they're deeply invested in some terrible basic-cable show, and the fact that you've never seen it does nothing to deter them from going on and on about it.
Your Coping Mechanism
Although I normally advise my friends to be as honest as possible with their boyfriends, there's really no way to be openly negative about his parents without being totally evil. Limit your exposure, and be rational about the fact that we are not our parents, and that your boyfriend is not his father. Or his mother. Unless, of course, the person you're dating doesn't see that his mom is a full-on bear attack in social situations or that his father is a casual bigot, which could signify bigger problems to come for your relationship.
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Look, hardly anyone wants to be judged on their parents, let alone be equated with them, so all you can really ask is that you and the person you're dating are on the level with each other. If the parents are a Legitimate Problem, you need to make sure your significant other is OK with you limiting your exposure to them as much as rationality and decency permit. But if your boyfriend can't understand why you get offended when his mother does quote-fingers when she inquires about your "career," you're setting yourself up for as many fights in the year as there are holidays and family beach vacations.
Bizarro Opposite Scenario:
Your boyfriend doesn't get along with his parents -- but you do. Listen, you've all heard this before, ladies: Don't trust a man who doesn't get along with his mother (with the obvious exception that she's an imbalanced loon). If the parents are cool and their kid is just one of those people who can't stand being happy or approved of, they probably have deeper issues that aren't going to be fun for you to work out.
Scenario 2: You Can't Stand His Siblings
In a way, parents are supposed to be a little taxing. For starters, they're old as dirt and aren't hip and can at least be rationalized by dint of the generation gap. Bastard siblings, however, are much more difficult to deal with, especially if they live in the same place as your boyfriend.
For one thing, siblings have more shared history than you and he ever will, much of which involves old grudges, inside jokes and excuses being made by your partner over why his brother needs to stay with you for a month -- or why his sister is a classic One-Upper who always has a better, crazier, bigger version of the story you just told.
Your Coping Mechanism
If you're dating someone with a just-plain-brutal sibling, all you can really do is accept that you're not going to be close and pull a Neville Chamberlain appeasement situation: I'm never going to like you, but I'll allow you to be crazy and annoying at the margins of my life for the sake of your sibling.
Bizarro Opposite Scenario
Weird as it may be, hitting it off too well with your significant other's siblings can be dangerous ... and not just when that sibling is the gender you find attractive. (Don't even get me started on the potential for horror there.) But if your significant other is like most people, he's always going to be a little competitive with his siblings and need to feel that, at the end of the day, you're on his side. So, as tempting as it may be to be your brother-in-law's best drinking buddy, don't become his closest confidante.
Scenario 3: You Hate His Friends
You know that thing they say about how you can tell a lot about people by the company they keep? Yeah, well, it's true. If you're dating someone whose friends are all obnoxious or boring or rude, you'll want to exit stage right now. If he has lots of nice friends who all just happen to hate you, consider their quorum of dislike and perhaps check yourself for engaging in potentially unlikable behavior. And if you're dating someone with no friends, maybe check his icebox for hobo limbs.
Your Coping Mechanism
A lot of us live in cities or towns away from our families, but friends are inescapable. If you're dating someone whose friends are giant tools, you're looking at someone who is either loyal to the point of masochism or a tool-in-hiding. No one hangs out with racists or idiots or abusive boyfriends unless they, too, have a little bit of that in them, or not enough balls to stand up for the opposite.
Bizarro Opposite Scenario
His "friends" don't really like your significant other, and may even like you more. You know these friends -- the ones who seem to love their pal but casually undermine with comments like "I'm just surprised she landed you," or "You're great -- don't put up with his temper tantrums." This is a coded message. They're telling you they're only friends with the person you're dating because they knew him in high school or because he has a beach house. Run.
In Sum
Remember, in the end the most important thing is that you and your S.O. like each other. Other People can be dealt with, although often with exhausting delicacy. Consider this when deciding whether or not you're in a relationship for the long haul. And hey, if you can take your boyfriend's mom's obsession with "Twilight" and his brother's insistence that authentic spaghetti carbonara DOES have peas in it and his grad-school buddy who calls movies "films" -- it may actually be love.
[Redacted] Guy is the resident single guy writer at Lemondrop. He has written extensively on dating, love and the Wikipedia "talk" page for R. Kelly's "Trapped in the Closet."
Send him hate mail and love letters here, and follow him on Twitter.
Look, hardly anyone wants to be judged on their parents, let alone be equated with them, so all you can really ask is that you and the person you're dating are on the level with each other. If the parents are a Legitimate Problem, you need to make sure your significant other is OK with you limiting your exposure to them as much as rationality and decency permit. But if your boyfriend can't understand why you get offended when his mother does quote-fingers when she inquires about your "career," you're setting yourself up for as many fights in the year as there are holidays and family beach vacations.
Bizarro Opposite Scenario:
Your boyfriend doesn't get along with his parents -- but you do. Listen, you've all heard this before, ladies: Don't trust a man who doesn't get along with his mother (with the obvious exception that she's an imbalanced loon). If the parents are cool and their kid is just one of those people who can't stand being happy or approved of, they probably have deeper issues that aren't going to be fun for you to work out.
Scenario 2: You Can't Stand His Siblings
In a way, parents are supposed to be a little taxing. For starters, they're old as dirt and aren't hip and can at least be rationalized by dint of the generation gap. Bastard siblings, however, are much more difficult to deal with, especially if they live in the same place as your boyfriend.
For one thing, siblings have more shared history than you and he ever will, much of which involves old grudges, inside jokes and excuses being made by your partner over why his brother needs to stay with you for a month -- or why his sister is a classic One-Upper who always has a better, crazier, bigger version of the story you just told.
Your Coping Mechanism
If you're dating someone with a just-plain-brutal sibling, all you can really do is accept that you're not going to be close and pull a Neville Chamberlain appeasement situation: I'm never going to like you, but I'll allow you to be crazy and annoying at the margins of my life for the sake of your sibling.
Bizarro Opposite Scenario
Weird as it may be, hitting it off too well with your significant other's siblings can be dangerous ... and not just when that sibling is the gender you find attractive. (Don't even get me started on the potential for horror there.) But if your significant other is like most people, he's always going to be a little competitive with his siblings and need to feel that, at the end of the day, you're on his side. So, as tempting as it may be to be your brother-in-law's best drinking buddy, don't become his closest confidante.
Scenario 3: You Hate His Friends
You know that thing they say about how you can tell a lot about people by the company they keep? Yeah, well, it's true. If you're dating someone whose friends are all obnoxious or boring or rude, you'll want to exit stage right now. If he has lots of nice friends who all just happen to hate you, consider their quorum of dislike and perhaps check yourself for engaging in potentially unlikable behavior. And if you're dating someone with no friends, maybe check his icebox for hobo limbs.
Your Coping Mechanism
A lot of us live in cities or towns away from our families, but friends are inescapable. If you're dating someone whose friends are giant tools, you're looking at someone who is either loyal to the point of masochism or a tool-in-hiding. No one hangs out with racists or idiots or abusive boyfriends unless they, too, have a little bit of that in them, or not enough balls to stand up for the opposite.
Bizarro Opposite Scenario
His "friends" don't really like your significant other, and may even like you more. You know these friends -- the ones who seem to love their pal but casually undermine with comments like "I'm just surprised she landed you," or "You're great -- don't put up with his temper tantrums." This is a coded message. They're telling you they're only friends with the person you're dating because they knew him in high school or because he has a beach house. Run.
In Sum
Remember, in the end the most important thing is that you and your S.O. like each other. Other People can be dealt with, although often with exhausting delicacy. Consider this when deciding whether or not you're in a relationship for the long haul. And hey, if you can take your boyfriend's mom's obsession with "Twilight" and his brother's insistence that authentic spaghetti carbonara DOES have peas in it and his grad-school buddy who calls movies "films" -- it may actually be love.
[Redacted] Guy is the resident single guy writer at Lemondrop. He has written extensively on dating, love and the Wikipedia "talk" page for R. Kelly's "Trapped in the Closet."
Send him hate mail and love letters here, and follow him on Twitter.













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Saturday 11 September
By Blower of Shofars
If you push your mom's boyfriend into the pool ON Rosh Hashanah (Had to Google the spelling on that one. I'm a GREAT atheist! - - I mean Jew.) is your slate still clean?
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Monday 13 September
By novella
Fool at heart
Monday 13 September
By Carla
Dude... you are SO NEGATIVE... maybe the guy has parents that he loves, and actually mean well? Maybe his friends and at least some of his relatives like you, and they're decent people? Maybe your family will like him just based on the fact that he loves YOU
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Monday 13 September
By Daisy
If you can't stand his friends, don't like his sibs, and don't like his parents, what are you doing with him. Find his family unacceptable? Remember, he is his family. Perhaps you can't see it now, but you will later. Guess you won't like him either. Know what respect is? Perhaps you have none for anyone. Have you any self-respect? You gain self-respect by respecting others. Perhaps you should simply get lost. Do your significant other a favor.
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Tuesday 14 September
By Irish Miss
Well said Daisy and something that I was thinking as well. While I was not madly in love with my husbands family, I did my level best to treat them with respect, I did remember that we came from different states and cultures as well. We have now gotten along for close onto 50 years...........go figure on that one. As has been said, if you want respect and to be treated well then give respect. Too often I havae heard some of the younger wives saying how much they hate their mother-in-law and all "his" family. Guess that they are too young to figure out that the feeling could be mutual and his family hate her as well. No matter what else, I never made my husband pick between his and my family. I never bad mouthed them in front of him, I did think some wicked thoughts as I look back. I also did remember that the man I had married had been formed and raised by his family.
Monday 13 September
By susie bach
I never met my boyfriend parents before we were married - he met mine briefly.
We met and were married within
six months - we were married for-57 years, 2 months and 17 days of incredible happiness, love and adventure,
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Tuesday 14 September
By mixie
That is wonderful :)
Monday 13 September
By Lobo
If it takes breaking up a relationship to start one.......... Don't!
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Monday 13 September
By Vella
Give it to Jesus...
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Monday 13 September
By Niz
To all you singles out there, when you marry the person you marry the parents.
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Monday 13 September
By Muslim
What is the difference between dating and marriage?
The requirement of marriage, when the oaths are taken or the theoretic idea of marriage, to be committed to that human you are marrying for the rest of the life you have on this Earth.
It seems as though you want to have all of the accouterments of marriage without the contractual obligation of marriage to be with that human you are marrying for the rest of the time you have living on the Earth.
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Monday 13 September
By Muslim
Wisdom from the Prophet Muhammad(Peace be upon him):
Narrated 'Abdullah: We were with the Prophet while we were young and had no wealth whatever. So Allah's Messenger said, "O young people! Whoever among you can Marry, should Marry, because it helps him lower his gaze and guard his modesty (i.e. his private parts from committing illegal sexual intercourse etc.), and whoever is not able to Marry, should fast, as fasting diminishes his sexual power." (Book #62, Hadith #4) Sahih Al-Bukhari.
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Monday 13 September
By Marie
I'm in a situation where my parents but especially my mom is really bad. She is a man hater you could say because of her life with my dad (but still married after 53 years) and my two failed marriages due to alcoholism and womanizing by ex's. I have had no luck and I guess she feels I should just concentrate on my children, home, and career which I do. Here is the problem I'm dating someone I so much love and he is pulling away and I know its because of the fact that my family is not accepting of him. He is a family type man and says when you commit to a person there family is yours. I understand that but I still believe that if two people really love each other that is foremost. We are 50 now so what do you think. Even Romeo and Juliet were the greatest lovers of all time and from arch enemy families. I so hurt and am in a dilema.
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Monday 13 September
By lynn
If your 50 years old 'F' your parents!!! they are about to drop 6 feet under and your time clock is ticking too!! you need to grow up lady.
Monday 13 September
By J Lea
It's not that I don't like my husbands siblings, it's just that I'm not that into the drama of their lives. Same goes for my kids and their significant others. Now my husband, he gets off on knowing everything eveyone is doing which leads to pointing out everyone's shortcomings and criticizing the stuff they do. I just figure it's all none of our business which unfortunately makes it seem like I'm the icy mom and the stuck up brother's wife.
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Monday 13 September
By Rose
I have a scenario that this article didn't cover, I hate his sister-in-law. I have always tried to be nice to her, but it does no good. She is a very negative person, she rarely smiles or laughs or makes any effort to be pleasant at all. From day one she never liked me even though I was always nice to her. I've never said an unkind word to the woman and yet she thinks it is just fine to treat me with disrespect. I suspect she has always felt jealous of me. I've come to realize that she is just a bitter and unpleasant person and there is nothing I can do to change that. I just try to ignore her most of the time. When I have to be around her I am still polite, but I know I will never be friends with her. Now that I've gotten to know her I realize that I wouldn't want to be her friend anyway. She reminds me of the old saying "With friends like these, who needs enemies?" As far as I'm concerned, it's her loss.
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Monday 13 September
By Harleygirl
My mother-in-law is absolutely CRAZY!!!!! I have been with my husband for 5 years and we have a beautiful 2 year old daughter. We adore each other in every way possible. But his mother is nuts! She is very invasive and controlling. She drops in with no warning, she reads mail that does not belong to her, she plays massive mind games, and she loves loves loves drama! I have learned to just limit my time around her and just smile. She gets nothing out of me and my little family is happy. But oh how I wish this woman would go away!!!
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Monday 13 September
By toc
You must move! I have been married 45 years and my MIL is mentally ill. Varying degrees of this illness have passed to 4 of my husband's 8 siblings. It will only get worse. The hardest part is that your husband doesn't see his mother's behavior as unacceptable because this is what he knows. Advice from someone who has been there and is still living the MIL from hell--move 500 miles away and never let her visit without a return ticket.
Monday 13 September
By Mark
You are living the life I just gave up.My spouse and her family are all with Depression.Which is some of what you are describing. Good luck with the life.It will most likely not get better unless you try to learn to deal with it or get out.I choose to get out as the whole family was the problem and I come from a family that is nothing like them.I was told by minister and consulter's to run away.Not to mention Doctors, my lawyer and family from both sides.
Monday 13 September
By lynn
if you want her to go away, next time she shows up unannounced don't open the door.