"Women who cross their legs deserve to be cheated on." That statement basically sums up the premise behind Aussie psychologist Holly Hill's new book, "Sugarbabe: The Controversial, Real Story of a Woman in Search of a Sugardaddy," which hits shelves this month. Among some of Hill's more fascinating theories: Couples who want to stay together should try out "negotiated infidelity," with a "sugarbabe" who acts as what we can best describe as a surrogate wife meets Hooters waitress. And who, by the way, is paid for ministering to your man.
Intrigued (and more than a little skeptical) we tried to find out exactly what Hill is thinking -- and what it was like to be a bona fide sugarbabe -- as she, of course, was.
Lemondrop: Define what you mean by the term "sugarbabe." And what does it take to be a successful sugarbabe?
Hill: For me, a sugarbabe is like a sex worker in many ways, except she only has a single customer. She also provides a lot more services, such as the three C's: cooking, counseling and conversation. The most successful sugarbabes are those who have the wives' permission! It would be lovely to negotiate with "Mrs. Sugar Daddy" and find out how you could complement each others' efforts to ensure the (common) man in your lives is happy and healthy. Personal attributes [of a sugarbabe] should include generosity, high self-esteem, excellent conversational skills, reasonable looks -- if you're a "stunner," you're at a disadvantage, because sugar daddies don't want to attract too much attention -- and you need to be a good lover, of course.
What about the other term you coin in the book, "negotiated infidelity"? What does this mean, and how many couples can honestly make it work?
Negotiated infidelity is about negotiating some sort of sexual alternative for your partner if you have unmatched libidos. It's about formally establishing a set of rules and boundaries for your relationship. For example, I'm unprepared to share intimacy with other women, so my partner may sleep with every woman in the WMBA for all I care, but he's not permitted to spoon any of them. For his part, I'm not allowed to wear any of the clothes that he's purchased for me when I'm with other men. Every couple is unique and the rules don't have to go both ways -- unless we want them to.
Asking all women to be comfortable with open infidelity is a tall order. What suggestions do you have for women not willing to go this route? Start laying the foundations for negotiated infidelity instead. This means total honesty, open communication, and looking your partner in the eye and asking if they're "getting enough." If he/she says no, it does not mean throwing a fit, but instead saying something like, "I am not prepared for you to break our monogamy vows, but is there something else that could assist? Could we lift the pornography filter from the computer at night, or get some time away from the kids, so you can masturbate without fear of being seen?" If you love someone, you try and meet their needs, not scoff at them and deny they exist.
Define "naughty feminism," which also pops up in your book. And how can women who have a sugardaddy really be considered feminists?
Naughty feminism is about exchanging vulnerability for power, so it's definitely a feminist concept! Let's face it -- if life gives you a lemon, you make lemonade. Genetic modification might be OK for fruit, but not for guys. That means we have to use men's biology to work for us, rather than against us. Naughty feminism is walking the dog on a leash rather than letting it escape through a hole in the back fence. It doesn't necessarily mean negotiating other lovers, either -- it could be pornography, a lap dance, or even being allowed to perve himself stupid.
Tell us about your tenure as a sugarbabe. How long did you do this, and do you now consider yourself one of those "sluts who make better lovers" you talk about in the book?
The sugarbabe experience lasted about 12 months and was condensed for the book. I'm proud to call myself a slut in that I'm now a sex writer. I couldn't think of anything worse than getting sexual advice or reading sex scenes from someone who isn't doing it a lot. Never trust an unpromiscuous sex writer, I say!
Why did you focus exclusively on wealthy men? What's wrong with having a fling with a blue-collar guy?
Find me a blue-collar man who can afford $1,000 a week for a sugarbabe, and I'm his gal!
You mentioned that you got 11,000 hits from potential suitors when you advertised for a sugar daddy. What was the craziest proposition?

The strangest request was also the nastiest -- a man wanted me to be his personal assistant and have an affair with him, while his wife didn't know about it. To make matters worse, he wanted me to befriend his wife, so we could have threesomes later on.
Do you feel that any woman, at any age, can be a sugarbabe? Even if you're 50-plus?
Hell, yes! Older women make much better lovers because they've come to terms with their bodies, and they have more lovemaking skills, enabling them to put men at ease instead of the other way around. Plus, they likely have vodka in the freezer instead of a cheap bottle of wine.
One of your statements, "Women who cross their legs deserve to be cheated on," seems to intimate that women who aren't sexually promiscuous are basically asking for disappointment. Do you really believe that?
Women who cross their legs -- and most of us have every right to do this at some time in our lives -- and don't provide some sort of sexual relief for their men WILL be cheated on. We all make jokes about blueballs, but they are real. This means we must negotiate an alternative, which could be pornography -- anything as long as it enables him to get his rocks off.
You say that women shouldn't take infidelity too personally. Yet so many of us do. So, why is this the case?
Women have sex for things like love, cuddling, kissing and so on. Men have it for pressure relief, a cheap thrill or because their wives have crossed their legs. The problem lies in the fact that women project values onto men. Our cheating husbands don't love the people they are having sex with. In fact, half the time, they don't even want to know their name. Nature made men and women this way, and without thousands of years of evolution, we will continue to fail in marriage 50 percent of the time. If you don't change the recipe, the end result will always be the same.
How have your theories been perceived by therapists and couples counselors? I imagine that you have some detractors. What do you say to them?
Interestingly enough, many therapists and counselors are beginning to adapt my ideas. They will soon have the happiest clients. And it's perhaps why traditional psychology often takes months or even years to work!
You're currently in a relationship. How does this person feel about your approach to negotiated fidelity? Have you ever been married, or are you opposed to this societal ritual?
I practice negotiated infidelity with my partner and he worships the ground I tread on, as would any man whose partner allows him to have as much sexual release as he likes. It also taps into his competitive nature. There's nothing worse than having a dedicated wife sitting at home that no one else wants. A woman who's desired by other men will receive chocolates and flowers, but why should he give them to someone who's already (and completely) his? I haven't been married, but my life's work is about making lifetime soul mates a commonality rather than a rarity. This might mean marriage, a commitment ceremony, or whatever it is the couple wants.
You mention that young women nowadays should be comfortable using their bodies to get jobs. In what way, and do you believe this will gain them respect once they actually have the job?
Men use their biceps, models use their beauty, massage therapist use their hands, so why on Earth should young women not use their vaginas? Men desire sex more than anything in the world. Do you think the woman whose husband is sleeping with everything that moves is respected? And why does the "office slut" get all the promotions?
Why do you say that women are far more dangerous when it comes to cheating?
A sugarbabe is a professional doing a job, while a mistress is a woman with her heart on the line.
Is there anything you wish you had done, but didn't, during your sugarbabe days?
I don't have a single regret, just big mistakes that delivered great lessons, which I don't want to part with. My only wish is that the 50 percent divorce rate becomes a thing of the past, because relationships are based on biology and mutual happiness rather than outdated beliefs and miscommunication.
What's next up for you?
I'm currently writing my third book, "The Velvet Pouch," which is about women and my path to negotiated infidelity. There were some tears along the way, too!
Liz Ozaist is about to celebrate her fifth wedding anniversary. She has never been -- nor wanted to be -- a sugarbabe.












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Thursday 05 August
By wizard
wat!! - yep i love the artical... it reminds me how warp our world is becoming. Totally self fish and pleasure orientated. Y Y cant u just part without involving others - when u know the relationship is over. Sex matters if u cant fix it move on.
Ps: The next married geezer who come son to me pretending to be "friends" gets it full blast
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Thursday 05 August
By SunnyHawaii
Every profession has it's nuts and fruits and this chick is poster child for therapy. Men need sex all the time? How about learning to control desires? They use to kill each other all the time too - somehow MOST manage to control that instinct. It's called EVOLVING. She's just spinning the high end call girl into a 'sugar babe'. You can call it all kinds of pretty names and put glitter on it, but a whore is a whore. She was making $4,000 a month on her back. For her it worked but to advocate that all women should turn into whores because their partner cannot control his lust. How much did some Male Coalition (Penthouse? Hustler) pay her to do this book?
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Friday 06 August
By Dela
"Negotiated Infidelity" for "partners of unmatched libidos"? What this so-called psychologist fails to acknowledge is that we are more than just animal---we have hearts for understanding and making compromise in a relationship. Grow UP Ms Holly , and make a few sacrifices that don't involve just spreading your legs.
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Thursday 05 August
By Really?
Discount store or vending machine? One has to wonder where this woman got her degree.
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Thursday 05 August
By Mary
A waste of my time to read this Book, A waste of money, and a waste to even ponder her Sugar Babe way of thinking
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Thursday 05 August
By eastport111
This woman is a slut and should be locked up for taking people's money for such bad advice.
Anyone who looks to her for help with their problems will end up with worse problems if they listen to her.
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Thursday 05 August
By Joannie
A lot of her ideas make sense to keep the relationship together.
The only problem I have is this. I wouldn't want my man to come
home and have sex with me after he has done other women.
Think of all the diseases he could be carrying .
Her other idea about porn and letting him do his release without
bothering him is a good one. Don't have a problem with that and I
love the idea. That way I can keep my man and he is happy. Most of
the time he will be more passionate after viewing his porn and I will
be the beneficiary. In a lot of ways, viewing porn by an adult isn't that bad,
really.
Other than that, the choices are : put up with a unhappy marriage or relationship,
break up, divorce, sexless marriage , and totally unhappy pretending to be happy.
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Thursday 05 August
By jacklyninsocali
Oh good grief, and someone paid for her to write this tripe? To each his own, but I happen to like my monogamy, tyvm. Be a cold day in hell I "...find out how you could complement each others' efforts to ensure the (common) man in your lives is happy and healthy"
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Thursday 05 August
By rob
I would marry this woman. She's right, and she has a good understanding of the mindset of a man. We cheat without any emotion attached to it. I know it seems like its wrong, but its just because society programmed us to think this way. Most men wont admit it, but they feel the same way.
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Thursday 05 August
By Deb
The only reason to let him cheat would be to get all of his money in the divorce.
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Thursday 05 August
By Playadude
FINALLY- some clear thinking and some HONESTY. I know tons of married men whos wives have decided that for whatever reason, sex is no longer part of their marriage thing. They treat their men like dogs under the dinner table, giving out scraps of affection every so often, even ridiculing them for their lonlyness and their desire to connect with the feminine. When the men finally leave, or get another woman in their lives, you better believe the wives will accept ZERO responsability- They'll complain to their friends and therapists about what great mates they have been- then move on to neglect their next mate-
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Thursday 05 August
By Maria
so then those men should leave, period. not just go out and cheat
Thursday 05 August
By K Cohen
I am totally disgusted............Some people will say and do anything to make
a dollar.
So what did you say your IQ was? Don't insult women with your ignorance.
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Thursday 05 August
By Kat
Sorry to tell the "Sugarbabe", but being a sex writer is no excuse to whore yourself out to the first hairy old fart that can afford $1000 a week to f*ck you. I am a sex writer, and I would never put myself in that kind of situation. Does she seriously believe she's worth the $1000 she seems to think some guy should earn a week to be worthy of her? She's telling us she can't be a slut AND earn her own paycheck? At least if she did that she could be semi-respectable because she wouldn't be telling all of us she has to depend on a man to pay her way. Additionally, she says women should let men cheat? Spoken like a woman with very little respect for herself. She also sounds like someone unable to keep herself from getting into bad relationships where men repeatedly cheat on her. And really, is there any shock that men would cheat on a materialistic whore? Seriously, who would want to have an honest relationship with someone like that? I doubt it's even possible. I certainly hope young women never look up to this jaded woman as a role model. If someone wants to build a career as a sex writer, they should look up Alison Tyler, Zane, or Violet Blue as a successful role model in the industry. These are strong women who don't have to lower their standards to make a buck. Sugarbabe's entire demeanor screams closet depression and low self esteem. Being a $1000 prostitute may seem like a good thing for her...at least until the money runs out and the Joe she's banging brings her home an STD. Then what?
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Friday 06 August
By Alicia
Kat you are exactly right. I actually watched a show featuring this woman and I remember her saying that she came up with all this nonsense after being cheated on multiple times. I have no problem with people who are in open-relationships, but I think you must have serious self-esteem issues to give your husband permission to hire a "sugarbabe" [prostitute].
Not only does this put women back 50 years, but if I was a man I would find this offensive. She's essentially saying that they have no self control, morals, or pride in their relationships, and she did in fact compare them to dogs.
Friday 06 August
By Soulfulwhim
This author angers the hell out of me. I am 3 1/2 months pregnant and my husband left me for another woman when I was only 7 weeks pregnant. This author was also cheated on...and then she says it should be ok to let your husband to fulfill his needs by someone else! UMMMMMMM...it's called use better judgement on men next time and don't sink to their level and settle. Someone needs to slap some common sense into her.
Thursday 05 August
By SINTA -- yup thats my name
haha reading this makes me laugh. Guys are probably like "Hell ya!" but does she really get respect? HELL NO.
HAHA, she is seriously lost, I'm suprised at how easy it is to become a psychologist, I've always known that there are idiots out there but this is just plain wrong. sure pleasing you man is a big deal... but really??? HAHA this chick thinks she has respect for herself when in fact she doesn't even realize she has no respect for herself at all if she thinks she or any women deserves that and should just let adultry be ok.
I think she needs a psychologist of her own :) Hey Holly, I'll do your first session for free, what do you say??
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Thursday 05 August
By Aida
Saw her on Larry King and she is a joke! As a "psychologist" she should see that when you accept your mate cheating on you, you are accepting that you are not worth being in a committed, monogamous relationship! If a man wants to sow his seed to the world of insecure women who have no self-esteem, no self-worth and no sense of morals, let him, just don't be in a relationship with him! Unbelievable that this trash is printed and then put out there to make a buck! It's so ridiculous!
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Saturday 07 August
By Cole
Te author quotes Holly as saying a "Sugarbabe" shouldn't be a "stunner". Then a picture of Holly is posted - she is a stunner!
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Saturday 07 August
By San
small eyes ugly eyebrows thin lips tiny boobs ? Not a stunner she is average