
This week, Panama and Emily take on Facebook stalking. It kind of makes sense -- you meet someone new, you're flirtatiously friended by him, and you're interested. Is it OK to explore all the information that he offered up by friending you, or should you get to know him the old-fashioned way? What is the old-fashioned way these days, anyhow? Read on to see what we think ...

Guy Voice: Panama Jackson
Yes, I think that you're crazy. Psycho, actually. While I understand the desire to peruse buckets of information to help you make a more informed decision about somebody you're interested in, the fact is, Facebook isn't how you do it, darlin'. You only really get to know somebody by TALKING to him and being around him. Facebook is only going to give you a prorated version of the person of your affections. Unless you see the dude standing around with AK-47s and AR-15s rocking a headband with a Swastika and a goofy mustache, how much are you really going to ascertain about him, especially whether or not he's a good dude?
Similarly, just because you see him hugging a puppy and saving some sea lions, it doesn't mean that he's your knight in shining armor. Heck, he put up those pics because it made him look good. Ever seen someone put up pics of him slaughtering cattle or standing in front of a bunch of whips and chains?
Further, just because he doesn't have a wall filled with comments that start out "B*tch, where is my money" or "I aww skeet skeeted all over your daddy's Volvo" doesn't mean he doesn't do those things. Emily thinks that a Facebook profile helps you get to know somebody, and on a completely superficial level, I think that's true. I suppose knowing that you went to Harvard Business School tells me SOMETHING about your study habits.
Or maybe it doesn't at all.
*cough* George W. Bush *cough*
I know our human nature inclines us to do as much info-seeking as possible, particularly in a place as vast and (potentially) informative as the Internet. Shucks, I've Googled myself twice since I started writing this. I just want to know who I am. But I already know me -- I'm just filling in the gaps. For somebody you don't know, Facebook is only going to tell you what they want you to see. A smart man would temper his profile so that he can get a job someday. You won't know if he's a good guy until you actually get to know him.
So stalk away, sister. Just realize that if you go looking for drama, you will find it. So why not give human interaction a try. Anything less is uncivilized.

Girl Voice: Emily Gordon
All right Panama, I get it -- you think Facebook stalking is insane. But I can't live in such a black and white world. It's 2010, and checking out someone's online presence is pretty much a requirement for dating. However, I will agree that with great stalking opportunities comes great responsibility. Here are a few cardinal rules to online stalking a potential mate that you must keep in mind.
First, I'm really glad this potential crush friended you on Facebook, because Rule #1 is that stalking without a friend request is not allowed. It's like rifling through someone's things when they're not home.
Rule #2 is that any information you glean from someone's Facebook profile about his interests must never be referenced in person. Sure, you can be aware that this guy is into Tarantino movies and Indian food, but those are just facts. Wait for it to come up in conversation and find out the context of his love for samosas. Nothing stops witty banter like "Yeah, I read that on your profile!" And if your interactions are going so awkwardly that you need to say something like "So I read on your profile that you like hiking," go ahead and hit the eject button on the courtship.
Rule #3 for Facebook stalking is that you cannot make any assumptions about any pictures or comments that you may see. Sure, you may file away somewhere deep in your brain that "Lissa" is in a lot of his pictures with her arm around him, but you cannot be suspicious or dejected because of that information. Again, what Facebook lacks is context, and context can only be found out with real live interacting, sans Blackberry interruptions.
Rule #4 goes all the way back to "The Brady Bunch." Remember that episode where Marcia had a crush on Harvey, the boy who loved bugs? Marcia spent the whole episode pretending to love bugs in order to get Harvey to like her, only to learn the lesson that a boy should like you for who you are, or else it's not worth it. Don't start "liking" the same pages your crush likes in order to fake a connection. Besides, it's hard to fake-like UFC or single malt whiskey.
Rule #5 is a simple one, but if you see anything on this guy's profile that strikes you as a red flag ("liking" racist fan pages, bragging about how many women he bangs, expressing that "The Marriage Ref" is his favorite show), remember that you have every right to nip things in the bud right then. Just make sure not to be too sensitive with your red flags.
Online social networking has really added a lot of layers to dating, but when used appropriately, it can really help you in the beginning stages of courtship. Happy stalking, but remember: The difference between Facebook stalking and hanging out with someone is as huge as reading the stats on a car and test driving it. Do your research and then take this guy for a spin!
What do you think? Do you agree with Emily's rules or is your thinking more in line with Panama's? Leave your comments below or tweet to us @Lemondroptweets with the tag #FBdatingrules -- we think there's a lot to say about this topic.
And as always, if you have a question you want both genders to take a shot at answering, head over to Guyspeak and ask -- it might end up back here!












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Wednesday 23 June
By Kat
Are you and IDIOT? Come on Do you really even have to ask this question ?
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Tuesday 13 July
By Julie
Well in this day and age people do take things either to literally or way to extreme or way to serious you have to know your boundaries of drawing a line that wont make him think and feel that way at all...
Thursday 24 June
By donnie
... I agree with both Panama and Emily. Its Good advice that should be repeated over and over and over. Of course most of us may be tempted to internet-stalk someone we are interested in - But context IS everything. Just because someone may leave a questionable comment on my wall - It doesn't mean I've dated him, or even want to. Odds are, its a friend I've known for 10 years, and the comment was an 'inside joke'. Friend lists leave you open to make assumptions, when you really need to remember - It could be relatives, friends who are married, work associates, classmates from school, and possibly even just a random internet friend whom they've never even met.
Profiles can be good only for generalizations, If they listen to TOOL , then they probably don't listen to Lady GaGa - but then - You'll never know for sure unless you have an actual conversation. That's part of the fun of getting to know someone - the 'not knowing everything ahead of time' - the interaction!
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Saturday 26 June
By Opihi
I'd have my reservations about anybody on Facebook .... I hate it. Anybody over thirty playing around with this silly site isn't high on my list of prospective dates or partners. Okay .... a few close friends and family maybe. But some 1298 "friends" is pathetic
If you're dumb enough to splash yourself all over the place on Facebook. I don't have much sympathty for anyone whining over being "stalked".
What I do have sympathy for is all you people writing here on LemonDrop ..... click onto your display name and see what you'll find. Try it.
YOUR PROFILE! Right here .... with ALL your comments you've EVER written to ANY AOL message board.
WARNING ... there is a Hyperlink under your display name on this comment board.
That profile was created the first time you signed on to ANY comment board on AOL ... and there are almost a hundred of them, including this one. It's linked to your EMail address . Permanently.
Now look at the archives of EVERY comment you've ever made, right there on your profile. To be seen by anyone who clicks onto it.
AOL never even warned you a "profile" was being made. Only that your comment had been "verified". AOL apparently thinks "verify" or "confirm" means "set up unauthorized profile". Sneaky sneaky
Oh yes. If you have an unusual name, your profile may be picked up by Google Search and you'll be all over the World Wide Web as an independent link. Instant fame?
We don't care about a single comment being picked up. We DO care about an archive.
Nasty Nasty ....
AOL .. play fair.
* Drop the practice of setting up unauthorized profiles
* Want to keep those profiles. Then INFORM us when we first post.
* Set the preference to "Private" by DEFAULT
* Remove "Profiles" from Google Search
Friday 25 June
By Barbara Edwards
I disagree with "stalking" one's crush. Friendships are very important, and starting out as a friendship, getting to know one another, becoming interested in what the other is doing with his/her life, I feel, is very important. For me, I feel oftentimes, his business, particularly if he is an entrepreneur and started it from the ground up, is very important to him. That business is his "baby". The more interest I show in his business and him as a person, the more interested he seems to be with me. I was involved with this rather famous man who had started his business from the ground up starting at age 15. He is now very successful. His business was an important part of his life and he works very hard. From the time I met him, I felt proud to be a part of his life. I still feel that way, although we have since broken up. We do keep in touch via Facebook, and it's my wish that we will get back together at some point when the time is right. But, I refuse to "stalk" him or be pushy. If he cares that much about me, eventually he will come around. Sometimes things we want don't come about right away; sometimes it takes years. We need to be patient if we want to get hooked up with the right person. And, in the meantime, we need to take good care of ourselves and move on with our lives and do in life that which gives us joy.
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Friday 25 June
By linkin park rock
Panama is soooooo true
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Friday 25 June
By Pamela Cotter
stalking is scary and also an envasion of privacy .I was stalked for ages without being able to do anything about it my medical records were released to this person all my personal information due to him paying someone to bug my telephone everything then used agaist me by a saddistic behavior pattern .Ive had my life threatened not to mention many unsolved murder cases of missing women in my area .Yes I find it just wrong .Its not intrest that causes someone to behave this way .It is a fear of getting caught for what hes done !
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Friday 25 June
By GreenHolyKnight
LOL As long as you get away with it and you don't abuse the advantage then its fine. No you are only a stalker if you get caught and the person doesn't like you but you still keep following them around. I can stalk anyone for a long time and they would never know it and it could be used to my advantage. It only because psycho when you act psycho and you eventually date the person you stalk for lack of a better term and then it doesn't work out and you keep following them. Thats not only pathetic but psycho lol I have probed analized assessed ect ect many women and it worked to my advantage many times. I found out who were bitches and who were not and that saved me time and money. Im not going to waste money going to dinner and a movie and then find out they are abortion loving gay loving liberals for example. I find out first then I go on to other things I can find out and well you get the picture.
If it doesn't work out I move on. So now you know what stalking is and is not.
Happy to educate you all. I charge 100 dollars an hour for advice greenspecter is the screename aol is the game
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Saturday 26 June
By doc
off your meds again? do i have to put you back in the institution? go take your pills, NOW!
Friday 25 June
By Terry
If you read it on the internet...its gotta be true eh?
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Monday 28 June
By Jon-Jon
Canadians. Gotta love em
Friday 25 June
By Laura
Panama is an idiot. Who thought it would be a good idea to let this guy comment on social situations?
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Friday 25 June
By Cody
Well I don't see how this argument is relevant, because Panama is obviously gay. So this argument is between two women. -.- Seriously you should get someone with testosterone to argue these points. I agree with Emily, she seems more educated on the subject matter. Therefore her argument was much more convincing and true.
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Saturday 26 June
By pro-choice, gay liberal
Obviously facebook is not the best way to get to know someone - nothing beats a face-to-face conversation. But, in the meantime, for a quick and basic idea of who someone might be or some ideas of what they like, I don't see a problem with looking up a new friend on facebook. What people really need to realize, however, is that by posting something on the internet, they are allowing anyone with an internet connection to access their information, pictures, etc., including potential stalkers ( whether said stalkers are crazy and dangerous or just checking out potential dates). Just be smart about what you post.
GreenHolyKnight: You sound a bit like the psycho... you're a stalker if you stalk people, not just if you get caught. And I'm not quite sure what's wrong with pro-choice, gay liberals.... well, I think I'll pass on the $100/hour advice, sounds scary.
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Saturday 26 June
By Nancy Mihalek
I just lost my husband to a Facebook stalker .I wonder how many other homes she's wrecked? I prefer to call her a cyber W____r!
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Saturday 26 June
By Yuki
I do want to say to Panama's response...
I'm fairly sure there've been at least one study that shows that people tend to not misrepresent themselves on Facebook; there is the potential for that, but I recall reading somewhere that people tend to be more honest over it.
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Saturday 26 June
By janet
Notice in the picture it shows a colored boy and a normal girl ? Imagine that ! Was the author a colored or a JEW ?
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Saturday 26 June
By doc
uh... a "colored" boy and a normal girl? a little bit racist there janet...
Saturday 26 June
By David S.
Stalking a "crush" on Facebook? How old is this girl? 13? If she is an adult, she serioulsly needs to grow up and face the real world.
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Saturday 26 June
By melly
I can't believe no one has pointed out the obvious: if he added you as a friend on facebook, don't you think he expects you to look at his profile?
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