Remember that Match.com date you went on last month, the one you spent hours exchanging witty email missives with before meeting -- only to discover that Steve the Musician is really Steve the Tax Attorney with a dusty drum set in his basement? If you've spent any significant amount of time online dating, or met up for cocktails with a formerly-chatty Casanova who spent a good portion of the date staring at his shoes, you've probably already figured out that e-charm doesn't always translate to IRL presence. So, how do the Steves of the world manage to lock down a first date, and whom can we blame next time we find ourselves seated across a candlelit table from one of them?
The fault may lie with virtual-dating helpers -- that is, modern-day Cyranos who do the grunt work of online dating for you (and, most commonly, him), picking the best pictures for your profile, penning answers to profile questions about the celebrity you most resemble and what your favorite root vegetable says about you, and even doing all of the pre-date emailing and date setups with potential matches.
In fact, the Washington Post recently covered one such service, Virtual Dating Assistants, one of the first full-scale Internet-dating outsourcing companies. Here's how what they do may lead to a severe lack of second dates for you.
The company provides four basic services to those too busy, lazy, or inept to do it themselves: an initial getting-to-know-you phone interview with their client, dating profile creation, identifying and communicating with potential matches, and finally, arranging an in-person date. Because who doesn't want some 24-year-old kid in charge of your romantic future?
This may come as a surprise, but Max Hartshorn, the VDA interviewed by the Washington Post, doesn
't even care if you get laid. His job is just generating leads -- and he gets paid for every woman who writes a (male) client back positively. "I don't care that much if it becomes a date or not," he admits.The Washington Post goes on to give us a glimpse of the average Virtual Dating Assistants customer. Men like Richard, 39, who decided to outsource the pre-date process because it seemed like a convenient solution, "just from a cost-benefit analysis."
Oh Richard, you know how to sweet talk a lady. And, apparently, so do a lot of guys like him: 80 percent of VDA's clients are men.
Richard started the process three months ago. After a lengthy phone interview with the service, his virtual helpers (who cost $600 for a basic membership) crafted a profile and started scouting out potential dates for him.
He says he feels he's being authentically represented in the emails written on his behalf, and if history serves as any sort of guide, he probably is -- and then some: As Scott Valdez, founder of VDA said of one of their proxy daters, "we maybe made him look a little too cool online." (And future dates, the story notes, were warned that the guy was actually quite shy.)
Valdez started Virtual Dating Assistants after he found himself in Richard's shoes, finding it difficult to make the time to tend to his online love life. He found the process leading up to dates "really repetitive," and decided to outsource it to a recent college grad, who got him up and dating in no time. 25-year-old Valdez founded the company last June and now employs 45 freelance writers, gifted in e-flirting, to keep the machine running.
So, how do women feel when they learn that it's one of these 45 poets doing the writing instead of their actual flesh-and-blood date? Says Richard, who asked the Post not to use his last name for fear colleagues or potential dates might find out he uses the service, it's no big deal. He did 'fess up once, when a woman he was dating asked why he was so active on the site, but claims that she didn't seem to mind.
We're sure she didn't. We also bet she and her friends had a good laugh -- and are eventually hoping to meet a guy who can sign his own emails.
What do you think: Useful service for the busy and/or socially awkward -- or an unforgivable deception that answers the rhetorical question "could online dating get any worse?"












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Tuesday 08 June
By zigomyheart
Frankly speaking, I think those who resort to this type of dating are very posssibly courting disappointment....I think that those who don't want to put the effort into getting out there and meeting people OR WHO CAN'T seem to get anybody interested after the first boorish attempt to be macho are just the guys who go to these places...My sister case in point went onto one of the supposedly better date/mate finding websites....the guy she ended up with is just that...a Big Boorish Baby Huey...First meeting she gets from him...I'm in this for marriage and if you aren't then we need to call this all off now....Because she WAS looking for a man to marry she pops up with I AM TOO!..The rest is history and she is married to the most boorish man I have met since my Ex son-In Law...SO I think people should take their chances out there on their own...There are a lot of men and women out there who you can meet on your own who aren't THAT desperate...
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Tuesday 08 June
By moxingzj
The fault may lie with virtual-dating helpers -- that is, modern-day Cyranos who do the grunt work of online dating for you (and, most commonly, him), picking the best pictures for your profile, penning answers to profile questions about the celebrity you most resemble and what your favorite root vegetable says about you, and even doing all of the pre-date emailing and date setups with potential matches. My boyfriend thinks the same with me. He is eight years older than me, lol. We met online at agelesscupi d.c ooom a nice and free place for younger women and older men, or older women and younger men, to interact with each other. Maybe you wanna check out or tell your friends.
Tuesday 08 June
By DAVEY
IT WORKS FOR ME
I found the love of my life on a dating service 3 years back and 5 months we now been married 1 1/2 years. and i love her very much.
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Tuesday 08 June
By Sarge
Dating on line is nothing more than a job application in a sense. You are looking for an interview, and just pursue it as if you were going after a great posistion.
By the time the 2nd or 3rd date rolls around you'll know and if you don't You have a problem and need a good buddy to straighten you out and bring you up to speed.
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Tuesday 08 June
By raiseace
I KNEW IT. For fun, one night, while doing some research for a paper, decided to do one of the dating services' surveys. I was then called on several occations when I did not respond to email by one person - male, I am female - named "Scott". He called in total 5 times leaving a message, each time saying he would no longer be calling me. His repritore was quite impressive, but seemed quite disengenuious to me. Despite this, I began to question myself and think that I was too jaded. Thank you for reinforcing for me that first and last instincts/impressions are everything.
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Tuesday 08 June
By On Line Dating Veteran
All's fair in love and war. You have to be patient with the process of on-line dating. It is what it is - and people who communicate easily on paper have a huge advantage. Some of the men who pay for help are probably real duds - but not all of them.
There's no guaranteed shortcut to finding the right person. I was lucky and found someone I really fell in love with - but it didn't happen overnight. And when I wasn't successful at first, I didn't take it personally. I understood from the beginning that this was a marketing problem. Making a good first impression in person doesn't mean you know how to attract someone's interest on the Internet - and that's not a moral failing or a sign of a crummy character!
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Tuesday 08 June
By thelegendaryjhartley
This is just another example a market ripe for outsourcing. You find people who are better than you are at an activity, and hire them to do it. The goal here is the date, and you still need to swim on your own when that happens, so I don't see what the big deal is. Sure, it's controversial but I don't think it's as immoral as some people are saying.
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Tuesday 08 June
By Jay
As a psychologist, I'd think a woman who found that an interesting man on line was only shilling for a client would call it quits on them both. I seek and communicate directly with prospective dates on line and off...present myself with my own charm.
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Tuesday 08 June
By mike
well, if you think a musician is better than a tax attorney
with a dusty drum set. you're completely out of your mind.
and this coming from a dude who quit his job to tour
europe with a punk rock band,,, good times indeed
but I grew up...
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Wednesday 09 June
By Jeff
Am I the only one that noticed that the female author of this article only describes the male to be the one that isnt all he was cracked up to be? What about the women that send an attractive pic of themselves, then upon meeting, you find out she actually weighs 300lbs and has a strong resemblance to a gargoyle. I suspect that this author has man issues and probably couldnt get a date with or without a dating service.
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Wednesday 09 June
By Nikki
While I don't agree with hiring someone to "play" you on an online dating service, I have absolutely nothing against the services themselves. For some of us, we lack the time or the inclination to "get out there" and meet people in person...I just turned 30 and really have no desire to meet desirable males at a bar or in a club...online dating made sense to me...and I am VERY glad that I gave it a shot...after dating for two years, I am getting married to a man I met on Match...and we are a "match." :)
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Wednesday 09 June
By The River Rat
Dating services are not designed for us that live way out in the country. I have tried a couple of times but never met anyone that I even wanted to meet in person. I work six days a week and spend what little off time I have with my two kids, I am divorced and have a son 14 and a daughter 12 who visit frequently. I just never seem to have time to go anywhere that the kids don't go too.
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Wednesday 09 June
By Sally
Online dating is a bit risky and can be very disappointing I will admit...I suffered through many what I call "one date wonders" but....I think dating in general can be so. However, I did meet my fiance online, he's local and we met and talked off and on via IM and email for months....he wasn't pushy and I was still going on dates here and there...then when I finally decided I'd had enough of meeting jerks online and was going to resign myself to backing off on dating and just enjoying life on my own....well....you guessed it.....he IM'd me again...we talked...no pressure and the rest is as they say history....we will be married with 3+ years of dating and getting to know one another in our favor. The point is...online dating works for some...thankfully it did for me
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Wednesday 09 June
By kimberley
Hey River Rat,
Believe me, women are impressed when a man puts his kids first. Not so much though when his whole life is his kids. Like women, men need to be more than just a employee and father. He must have a personal life to make him grow to be all that he can be. I am not saying he needs to find a wife, but let's face it..if your whole calendar is your kids activities, and you are just too tired or uninterested in dating or meeting any woman, then you are not going to be "fun to be with", that is, from a date's perspective. Will you even know that women still do like doors opened for them and flowers and attention? Will you know how to give it? Do you know whether it's cool to call a woman two days after if you want to see her again, or are you all hung up on letting her do all the pursuing? You would be wise, River Rat to not that that inner part of you stay too long up on the shelf. I'm just sayin....
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Wednesday 13 February
By happywithe-sitematch
The mistake here is the e-site controlling the questions that supposedly reveal who is a good match for whom. The "virtual assistants" are actually doing a disservice to both the man and the woman seeking a friend/date/match. If the individual cannot write something about him/herself, then it is necessary to learn how to express oneself truthfully and as well as possible.
My (now) husband and I used such a site. Each of us wrote our own profiles and submitted our own choices for photos to accompany them. By the time we met, we already knew a lot about each other. The "virtual assistant" could never have gotten to know us well enough to write for us. There was no chance of incorrect information being available to the other, unless one of us had provided it. Despite the horror stories about how people can lie in their profiles, the truth is that any discrepancies will become apparent eventually. Anyone who truly wants to meet someone has nothing to gain by an inflated or outright dishonest entry.
So, . . . dispense with the "canned" questionaire(s) that some third party uses to decide which persons are right for each other. With appropriate safeguards for remaining anonymous until the couple wish to reveal their true identities to one another, just let the individuals involved write, call, meet and make their own decisions!
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Wednesday 09 June
By Jim
I didn't read all the comments, I just got one and I gotta run
I'm an old guy and come from the old school. I can still handle my women and sure don't need some 24 yr old to do it for me!
You guys that need to pay somebody to flirt for you....good grief! Why not just go get yourself a whore for the nite!
The flirt is part of the game you morons!
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Wednesday 09 June
By Lu
Hey, I am impressed with you. Where is your profile??!!!!
Wednesday 09 June
By lauraluv896
I have tried those on line dating sites. What gets me over and over again,
is people who do not see themselves as they truly are.
Like some big belly, bald man presenting himself as so desirable, and
wanting a perfect female..And then again, there are those females
who are so desperate for a man, any man, that they go along
with whatever the man says, even if they know it isn't true.
Therefore it becomes impossible for a normal decnt woman to find
a good and honest man, Men don't have to be honest or even desirable
they know they can find a woman. No matter how uncouth they are..
do not look for sincerity in online dating.!
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Wednesday 09 June
By KatieCouric'sNemesis
Dating services, online or not, are NOT in the business of finding a date/match for you. They are in the business of making a profit from your using their services. They tout their successes, but the percentage of people who actually got connected and went on to a relationship were nil.
And, the "clients" are not carefully screened if they are screened at all.
The best way to meet someone? Your friends, your family, your coworkers introduce you to someone they know.
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Wednesday 09 June
By Barb
Back before it was acceptable, in fact was thought to be very risky, I looked for love in chat rooms and found my own Richard. After IMs and emails for several weeks, we met... and have been together for 11 years now. Our first date was to see You've Got Mail. Some of the reasons for online dating need to be that you want someone who is computer literate and who can write (a sign of education and intelligence). If you hire someone to do this for you, at least be honest about it and don't mislead the relationship. I would have felt very deceived by a service. I learned a lot about the men I met online just by their writing, and the best part... attraction is in the personality, not the photo.
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