Dear Bar, I know we don't know each other. And I can't say I know Leo well either. I saw him once on a street corner in New York, and he's really cute, but not really my type. To each her own. Or so I wish.
Thing is, since the whole world is weighing in on whether the two of you should get married, I thought I'd wish you well ... and say this: I think you can live happily ever after, even if you're Jewish and he's not. And I speak from experience.
I admit, my jaw hit the ground when I read about Lehava yesterday: An entire Jewish organization dedicated to breaking up relationships like yours!? And, well, mine. Before we go any further, I should tell you that I'm a non-Jewish girl married to a Jewish guy.
And even without an entire league of crazies pitted against us -- sending my mom threatening letters about why we should end it, like they did yours -- it hasn't always been easy being an outsider who married in.
The thing is, it's hard to find love. Maybe especially if you're a supermodel. I mean, I don't really know what that's like, but I can see how being one of the most beautiful women on Earth could make you wonder: Does he really love me for my sense of humor!?
I've had to have a healthy one while dating, then marrying, Adam. Being an interfaith couple isn't for the faint of heart: Even if everything's cool between the two of you, the world has a way of inserting its beliefs in your relationship. As you know.
I mean, I'm not naïve. I know this goes on the world over: Mamas everywhere wring their hands when we fall hard for someone we shouldn't. Or they think we shouldn't. The thing that I find really rich in your situation is this: What if Leo's mom were all up in arms over the fact that you don't know how to make gnocchi -- or don't worship a dude called the pope!? What if she hired a secret Vatican council bent on keeping him dating girls who believed in the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost -- so as not to taint his bloodline?
I think some people might call that racist. So why is it OK for Lehava to do it in reverse?
Don't worry, you say -- they're extremists! But it does suck when their crazy zeal hits your relationship head-on, and, I hate to say it, but when you're an interfaith twosome, it's not only total wack-jobs who will feel the need to get involved.
There are at least a few lovely, highly educated people who have been less-than-welcoming to me since Adam and I met. I don't mind ... much. I got lucky! Not only is Adam great, he's so great that I'm willing to tolerate a fair amount of social censure to be with him. But that doesn't mean it doesn't get to me occasionally when people get all up in our business.
In fact, the first time we met an old friend of Adam's, he greeted me with: "So, are you tribe?"
I just kind of gave him a blank look. Of course, now I know what he meant was "Are you Jewish?" But can you imagine if the tables were turned, and I looked at him and said, "So, come from WASP stock?"
Still, a minor offense. Tribe?! Won't be caught looking on that lingo again. But then there was the time when we were first dating, and we met a bunch of his parents' close friends for the first time. Don't say anything stupid, I told myself. At dinner I was listening to a couple talk about one of their sons, who was in college:
"Does anyone know anyone we can fix him up with?" they asked.
And someone else said, confused, "Isn't he in a relationship?"
"Oh, she's not Jewish, so we're going to bust that up," said this kid's dad. And he laughed.
Holy faux pas, I thought. Just call me Bust That Up. There I was, meeting them for the first time, but nobody blinked. I tried to imagine if the situation were reversed: I would pretty much fight to the death if anyone insulted my fiancé, but when you're "tribe," it seems, dissing anyone who isn't is kind of like talking about the weather.
Then there was the time my husband and I got invited to a Sabbath dinner at the home of another old friend of his. I knew they were very religious -- and had grown increasingly so as they got older and had kids. I thought it'd be really cool to see what a Friday night dinner was like through their eyes. But then, about a week before we were scheduled to go, Adam said we had to talk, and he had a look on his face I'd never seen before.
"Um, I have to talk to you about dinner at Seth and Ronit's," he said.
"What?" I replied, blithely, wondering if they needed me to bring something special I wouldn't know how to make.
"They're not really comfortable having us there since you're not Jewish."
Whoa. Guess who isn't coming to dinner?
This was a guy Adam had known since childhood. One he loved and, moreover, admired. My first concern was for him: Was our relationship going to break up friendships he'd had his whole life? But my second thought was, Paging Sydney Poitier. I mean, really? Besides, what would happen if I threw a dinner party and decreed, Sorry, No Jews Allowed?

In time, I got over it. As did they. They came to our housewarming a year later, bearing apologies and gifts. Yes, I guess, eventually we can all just get along.
But, as anyone entering into an interfaith liaison should know, there will be flare-ups. For a while, Adam and I went through a peaceful stretch of being upset only by each other: Over how I perpetually left the spoon on the counter after stirring the coffee. Whether he had been unintentionally rude to my friends.
Then, the other day, my husband was writing an article for the newspaper where he works, and I helped him with some edits. When he wrote his editor and told him, the guy emailed back almost immediately:
"Tell the blonde shiksa you're fired, and she's hired!"
Ha, ha ... funny? (I mean, even if "blonde shiksa" is a tad redundant.)
How odd, I thought. I didn't know this guy well enough to I.D. him in a lineup. So what gave him the right to come at me with a pro-Zionist zing?
But, these days, I really do try not to bristle -- I find it's bad for the skin. And, Bar, I hope Leo has a thick hide, because you're going to have to stand strong against a small, small-minded faction of your countrymen.
But that doesn't mean it can't work. After all, I'm about to host My First Passover. My in-laws are coming. I'll do my level best not to kill anyone with the charoset. As for the rest, we'll -- as they say -- let go and let God.
Please know, if you have nowhere to go, you and Leo are welcome at our table, whether your union is considered b'shert in the eyes of Lehava or not.
Mazel tov!
Carrie
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Monday 15 March
By yoel namdar
I deeply feel sorry for those who have been hurt by intermarriage. Being a Jew, i simply wouldn't allow my son to marry a non-jew simply because it is what i believe in; Jew's have alot harder of a time with these decisions since we are merely %1 of the worlds population. This has nothing to do with being better than christians as many of my closest and dearest friends, neighbors are christian
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Monday 15 March
By Jerry
Hi Carrie,
No doubt I may be a bit older than most of your gang...however I applaud your entire take on this. I notice one thing that always seems to be omitted in like situations regardless what the religious preference.
"ARE YOU HAPPY"....that's really where it's at.
My Mother....bless her...said to me "of course I would like you to marry a Jewish girl...however if she's not of the faith it's OK. As long as you love each other and are happy...that's what counts'. I always felt she was ahead of her time...she's been gone a long time.
I know from other friends that inter-marriage is not without it's problems but love and respect for one another goes a long way. Decisions regarding the raising of children (if any) must be talked discussed.
I'm thankful to both my parents that I was was brought up in a home without prejudice. I grew up with a cross section of friends...been to midnight mass...christenings, etc. and our friends have been to all the mitzvahs we've had in our lives.
Of course you know I'm Jewish...my wifes family was about as religious as a rock..they went thru the motions but that made no difference to me. It's nice to get along with your in-laws...if not you make the best of it...;.and not to worry because your marrying their daughter not them. (it does help if they like you).
It's been 47 years...had a couple good ones..LOL..have a daughter who is the world to me. As for our life....still have the small battles once in a while...it would be boring without them.
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Monday 15 March
By Amy Rosenberg
I would never advise a Jew to marry someone of another religion unless the person converted to Judaism. I have been around for a lot of years and associated with many people. Most Christians and especially Catholics will not stop trying to get you to accept Jesus. The do not respect your choice of religion and are sometimes obsessed with your private opinions about G-D. A Jew who is concerned about his child marrying in the faith is just trying to preserve some sanity and a little family life for their later years. Being invited to events that involve forbidden foods and dieties in your old age is not fun.
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Monday 15 March
By ilenedan2
Amy, what a ridiculous comment. Any sentence that begins with "all X do Y" is a prejudiced statement. My stepmom is Christian and she has never once tried to convert me. Shame on you!
Monday 15 March
By Norma
Sorry, but if this "open letter" were written by, say, a Catholic priest to one of his flock who contemplated marrying a Jewish man, I speculate that most respondents would angrily flash the "anti-semitism card" with some justification. The tenor of the letter seems to suggest a genetic basis for the Jewish faith, which places its writer squarely in the racism zone. (Although I have my doubts that most American Jews are actually "semitic" by the preponderance of their DNA, as if that makes any difference.) Furthermore, the letter to Bar Rafaeli is sexist: she is more than simply a womb/repository for Jewish sperm to build the Jewish nation. She should ignore this shameful and unjustifiable appeal to provincial, racist sentiments.
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Monday 15 March
By KOKO
Proof that evil like stupidity, goes a long way...
and religion has become both.
"NO ONE DOES EVIL MORE CHEERFULLY, THAN WHEN THEY DO IT FROM RELIGIOUS CONVICTION". .....PASACAL
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Monday 15 March
By sallykiwi
^^well^^, THAT does it for me...
Im converted!
lol
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Monday 15 March
By David S.
Well, I don't think religion matters in most marriages today. Some people either don't take their faith that seriously or just go to church now and then. However, if you are a person of deep faith, I think it is best to marry someone just like you. It can lead to far less headaches with extended family and don't assume the person you marry is going to convert just for you. Converting to any religion is a serious matter, and it should be genuine, not to just to please a spouse. My mother converted to Catholicism when she married my father in 1950. Yes, that was a different time, and wives were expected to convert to their husbands faith. But my mother was never particularly comfortable being a Catholic, and as children we could sense it, even though she didn't say so until I was an adult.
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Monday 15 March
By Miriam
M mom was jewish and my dad is christian. Even though it lessens the number of guys alot, I'm still looking for a jewish guy. Here are the reasons:
1) It is important to me to have the acceptance and support of my (non-racist, but more traditional) family
2) I feel a sense of shared understanding with someone who comes from a similar background.
3) I feel a sense of responsibility to the path I was brought up in, which many in my mom's extended family died because of (in Europe).
I don't think any of the above make me wrong, a racist, etc.
I don't put down or condemn people who feel differently about their roots or choices in marriage/relationships.
Kudos to RealDeal and AngieBaby who (from different sides of the aisle) said it quite well. Oh, and the poster who talked of her grandfather crying as he told stories of pogroms in Europe and the effect that history and context have on us.
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Monday 15 March
By bill
Breakup sounds like a terrific idea. While two consenting adults can have their own conviction, its never a good idea for kids. I applaud the Jewish Groups efforts and as a Catholic, I wish we had a group similar.
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Monday 15 March
By Sally
I am a non Jew married to a Jewish man. I was welcomed into my husband's family very warmly, even by his more orthodox grandmothers. We actually had 2 wedding ceremonies back to back. First we had a Lutheran ceremony officiated by my favorite pastor when I was young. Then we brought in a chupa(I probably spelled that wrong) and had a second ceremony with a rabbi...so we are doubly married. 3 weeks later we went to a wedding out of town for a friend of my new husband...jewish marrying a jewish girl. Many people knew my husband and I were "mixed" Most assumed I was Jewish and many even tried speaking yiddish to me...yes, they got a blank look. My father often had people think he was Jewish and it had also happened tome long before I ever met my husband. I think it is the native American blood that gave us that "look" and many think they are the lost tribe. One time in college a fella asked me if I was Jewish and I said no(not at all offended). He then stumbled over himself saying he only asked because Jewish girls are so beautiful. All I could do was laugh.
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Monday 15 March
By Yitz
No one's going to pass judgment. Two adults should make their own decisions based on their own values. The consequences they face are their responsibilities. Their kids will bear those, too, as they grow up. The fact here is that Bar is daring Leonardo says that her values are pretty weak to begin. Thus, this discussion is fairly irrelevant. Her parents when she was young really didn't make it a priority to raise her with strong Jewish values, which include marrying within the faith. Her mother like Leo. I think that says it all. We're talking about a family that already has made up its mind about what traditional Judaism means to them. So we can bicker, or we can fact that intermarriage happens when one has decided that their heritage is not nearly as important (not that is unimportant) as other things in the person's life. Bar and Leo have to figure that one out each on their own and together. Each religion when not in fanatic mode has a great deal to offer people, but it requires you to adhere to its principles - not give them lip service and treat as an identity badge. That's superficial. The last thing is this thing called love. Is it love or is it lust? Love is something you work at. Lust is at the heat of the moment. Hollywood has a pretty poor track record on love.
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Tuesday 16 March
By oneniagara
We all know the story of Ruth, the Moabite, who as a widow followed her mother-in=law back to Israel with: "Your people shall be my people." She was married to her husband's kinsman, Boaz. They had a son, Obed who had a son, Jesse who had a son, David. Yes, the same King David from whom the messiah will descend. Quite an interesting lesson on intermarriage.
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Wednesday 17 March
By kimmy
That is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. The fact is, blacklisting people for not being jewish is no different than treating people different because they are black, hispanic, etc. ITS RACIST! If you are really so devoted to your religion and you treat others this way, it really doesnt matter who they marry because you're going to Hell, or your faiths version of it anyway.
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Wednesday 17 March
By cerebralmamma
Intolerance is never acceptable. Racism is not acceptable. Preserving one's heritage and beliefs from generation to genrationIS ALWAYS acceptable. While tolerance is lovely and love is grand, a Jewish marriage is about more than just love. It is about maintaining antoher link in the chain of the Jewsih people. A Jewish marriage is about more than the love the couple have for ecah other. It is about their love for G-d, the Torah and their fellow Jews. It is about love for their descendants spiritual future. Divorce ahppens because of many differences couples have. When Jewsih couples marry with the maturity and sense to know that their marriage has much bigger ramifications, they are usually wise enough and mature enough to know about choosing their spouse wisely.
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Wednesday 17 March
By anti-intermarriage
This artilce is a load of crap! Carrie is totally ignorant about Judaism and is an anti-semite. Of course you wouldn't understand why Jews are worried about intermarriage. It has nothing to do with racism or bigotry. Hundreds of millions of Jews have been lost through massacres, the Holocaust, and forced to conversions since time immemorial. If Jews keep intermarrying in high numbers the Jewish community will decimated. Sorry if Jews are touchy about the possible extinction of our people.
It's obvious that your husband doesn't care about Judaism. He wanted a gentile wife and children and now has them. Good for him but what's the point in celebrating Jewish holidays when you have a Christian family? Skip the Passover and celebrate Easter. You're not fooling anyone. Don't desecrate my religion and heritage and stay in church where your family belongs.
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Thursday 18 March
By cupidonsextoys.com
thats really stupid...
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Thursday 18 March
By paul
interfaith marriage is bad for jews because the group is dying out...jewish people must marry within their faith to stop the culture from going into extinction..jewish people have more roots with their own....cigarettes,beer,tattoos,bars are not for jews, jews are more into theatre,culture
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Friday 07 May
By 50william
05/06/10
I just read this discussion & it reminded me of 2 situations in my past.
In 1967/8 I asked for a Jewish girls phone number [a classmate] & she sid she did not date non Jewish guys.
In the mid 1980's my wives brother married a Southern Baptist in a southern city. Her father, a Presbyterian minister, COULD NOT help in the marrige service!!
Thr scarry part of this discussion is is that it is taking place in the United States of America in 2010 & not Gremany in the 1930's or South Africa in the 1980's!
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Tuesday 11 May
By hank
Gentile here: These rationalizations by Jewish bloggers sickens me. Shrinking numbers of Jews? Offspring not Jewish? Discrimination against Christians? I have lived in New York, I have worked for Jews, Orthodox and all the others, and they are some of the most greedy, dysfunctional, self serving, cold, materialistic sickos I have ever met. Obsessed with money, lacking in real emotion, and carrying around such an enormous sense of delusional entitlement the world has ever known. For them to be living in America, and rejecting of Christians is the absolute highest hypocrasy I can imagine. That is about as ridiculous as me going to Saudi Arabia, and openly and verbally rejecting all Arabs because I am holding out for an American like myself in the Middle East. Jews need to integrate, or go back to ISRAEL. And if there is no room left for them at the Israel Inn, it may very well be that the rest of the Middle East and the world doesn't want them around, or their disgusting thinking either. And I very well hope that one blogger defending his " Tribe" does not consider America their "Jewish Nation". We as Americans through our government send in excess of $10 Billion dollars per year to Israel to be our allies among a world of twisted Arabs. And what we get in return is a hypocritical slap in the face from them. Yes, I do hope their numbers are dwindling. It's likely because Male Jews don't want a whining greedy JAP to marry, and Jewish women don't want to put up with a spoiled, greedy whining Jewish pig. Hmmm. The world doesnt like them, and they don't even like each other. Must be something to that...Jews are too stupid to realize Christianity is the closest thing to a shared Judaic religion. And yet they will be the first to reject one unless it is drowning in a truck load of smelly CA$H.
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