Dear Bar, I know we don't know each other. And I can't say I know Leo well either. I saw him once on a street corner in New York, and he's really cute, but not really my type. To each her own. Or so I wish.
Thing is, since the whole world is weighing in on whether the two of you should get married, I thought I'd wish you well ... and say this: I think you can live happily ever after, even if you're Jewish and he's not. And I speak from experience.
I admit, my jaw hit the ground when I read about Lehava yesterday: An entire Jewish organization dedicated to breaking up relationships like yours!? And, well, mine. Before we go any further, I should tell you that I'm a non-Jewish girl married to a Jewish guy.
And even without an entire league of crazies pitted against us -- sending my mom threatening letters about why we should end it, like they did yours -- it hasn't always been easy being an outsider who married in.
The thing is, it's hard to find love. Maybe especially if you're a supermodel. I mean, I don't really know what that's like, but I can see how being one of the most beautiful women on Earth could make you wonder: Does he really love me for my sense of humor!?
I've had to have a healthy one while dating, then marrying, Adam. Being an interfaith couple isn't for the faint of heart: Even if everything's cool between the two of you, the world has a way of inserting its beliefs in your relationship. As you know.
I mean, I'm not naïve. I know this goes on the world over: Mamas everywhere wring their hands when we fall hard for someone we shouldn't. Or they think we shouldn't. The thing that I find really rich in your situation is this: What if Leo's mom were all up in arms over the fact that you don't know how to make gnocchi -- or don't worship a dude called the pope!? What if she hired a secret Vatican council bent on keeping him dating girls who believed in the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost -- so as not to taint his bloodline?
I think some people might call that racist. So why is it OK for Lehava to do it in reverse?
Don't worry, you say -- they're extremists! But it does suck when their crazy zeal hits your relationship head-on, and, I hate to say it, but when you're an interfaith twosome, it's not only total wack-jobs who will feel the need to get involved.
There are at least a few lovely, highly educated people who have been less-than-welcoming to me since Adam and I met. I don't mind ... much. I got lucky! Not only is Adam great, he's so great that I'm willing to tolerate a fair amount of social censure to be with him. But that doesn't mean it doesn't get to me occasionally when people get all up in our business.
In fact, the first time we met an old friend of Adam's, he greeted me with: "So, are you tribe?"
I just kind of gave him a blank look. Of course, now I know what he meant was "Are you Jewish?" But can you imagine if the tables were turned, and I looked at him and said, "So, come from WASP stock?"
Still, a minor offense. Tribe?! Won't be caught looking on that lingo again. But then there was the time when we were first dating, and we met a bunch of his parents' close friends for the first time. Don't say anything stupid, I told myself. At dinner I was listening to a couple talk about one of their sons, who was in college:
"Does anyone know anyone we can fix him up with?" they asked.
And someone else said, confused, "Isn't he in a relationship?"
"Oh, she's not Jewish, so we're going to bust that up," said this kid's dad. And he laughed.
Holy faux pas, I thought. Just call me Bust That Up. There I was, meeting them for the first time, but nobody blinked. I tried to imagine if the situation were reversed: I would pretty much fight to the death if anyone insulted my fiancé, but when you're "tribe," it seems, dissing anyone who isn't is kind of like talking about the weather.
Then there was the time my husband and I got invited to a Sabbath dinner at the home of another old friend of his. I knew they were very religious -- and had grown increasingly so as they got older and had kids. I thought it'd be really cool to see what a Friday night dinner was like through their eyes. But then, about a week before we were scheduled to go, Adam said we had to talk, and he had a look on his face I'd never seen before.
"Um, I have to talk to you about dinner at Seth and Ronit's," he said.
"What?" I replied, blithely, wondering if they needed me to bring something special I wouldn't know how to make.
"They're not really comfortable having us there since you're not Jewish."
Whoa. Guess who isn't coming to dinner?
This was a guy Adam had known since childhood. One he loved and, moreover, admired. My first concern was for him: Was our relationship going to break up friendships he'd had his whole life? But my second thought was, Paging Sydney Poitier. I mean, really? Besides, what would happen if I threw a dinner party and decreed, Sorry, No Jews Allowed?

In time, I got over it. As did they. They came to our housewarming a year later, bearing apologies and gifts. Yes, I guess, eventually we can all just get along.
But, as anyone entering into an interfaith liaison should know, there will be flare-ups. For a while, Adam and I went through a peaceful stretch of being upset only by each other: Over how I perpetually left the spoon on the counter after stirring the coffee. Whether he had been unintentionally rude to my friends.
Then, the other day, my husband was writing an article for the newspaper where he works, and I helped him with some edits. When he wrote his editor and told him, the guy emailed back almost immediately:
"Tell the blonde shiksa you're fired, and she's hired!"
Ha, ha ... funny? (I mean, even if "blonde shiksa" is a tad redundant.)
How odd, I thought. I didn't know this guy well enough to I.D. him in a lineup. So what gave him the right to come at me with a pro-Zionist zing?
But, these days, I really do try not to bristle -- I find it's bad for the skin. And, Bar, I hope Leo has a thick hide, because you're going to have to stand strong against a small, small-minded faction of your countrymen.
But that doesn't mean it can't work. After all, I'm about to host My First Passover. My in-laws are coming. I'll do my level best not to kill anyone with the charoset. As for the rest, we'll -- as they say -- let go and let God.
Please know, if you have nowhere to go, you and Leo are welcome at our table, whether your union is considered b'shert in the eyes of Lehava or not.
Mazel tov!
Carrie
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Saturday 13 March
By Martin Garfield
(Almost) full disclosure: I'm related to Carrie by marriage and I officiated at their wedding, bearing a title of rabbi. My name is disguised for unrelated reasons. Born, raised, and living life as a Jew, I'm outraged at the lack of courtesy, civility and ethics of people who profess to be authentically Jewish. Perhaps they've never read about the patriarch Abraham who welcomed all into his tent. Perhaps they've never read the torah, which is chock full of instances of intermarriage. They may have read the book of ezra, where intermarriage was frowned upon, but some of us don't accept the sayings of prophets as divine. Adam and Carrie's marriage is only the latest instance for me where my theoretical aversion to intermarriage is strongly overcome by my practical warmth at the concept of two people who love each other enough to make a lifetime committment.
I'm embarrassed for those who profess to be Jewish and have treated Carrie so shabbily. Knowing how Jewish communities operate, those who have been offensive are, to me, at the some level as those who violate God-given commandments, who molest, launder money, exploit others, but wear the trappings of their communities and put forth their prejudice against anyone not conforming to their beliefs. I don't know what those beliefs are, but they're sure not the Judaism that I know, love and have lived.
Carrie, you may not understand this, but yasher koach. If you haven't looked it up, I'll explain it at the seder you're making this year where I will be honored to be your guest.
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Monday 15 March
By claire
I agree with you rabbi Garfield! people from all religion should be compassionate toward each other . but as as a Jewish person, it goes behold,just being nice .i believe in the bigger picture, and by that i mean assimilation ,of the Jewish nation.it so simple ,and Carrie no offense to you,when a men marries a non Jewish women ,the children are not Jewish.as a Jewish nation we are shrinking every day by inter marriage. I love Bar and,i love Leo. if the reason Bar is not marring Leo, is because they do not share the same religion i have a lot of respect for her ,it says a lot for her values.Bar is in the limelight ,and a raw model to many Jewish girls.God give her strength to do the right thing . i truly don't envies her.Bar and Leo! i wish all the best.and to you dear rabbi, i appreciate your kind heard ,but please think of our Jewish history. help us to multiply, by marring within our own religion.by you marring couples that don't share our religion, yes! you are being nice ,and caring about your fellow men ,but you also are part of causing our Jewish nation to disappearing slowly, but surly.
Monday 15 March
By Sargent
What wedding did you officiate?????
Monday 15 March
By rachelvis1
mind you own business..and who really cares what he does?,,,,lame article...let the man have his life and I suggest you get one.,
Monday 15 March
By mel
As a Jewish woman I too do not agree with behavior of people who treat others with disrespect. But and here is the real issue, if Jewish lineage is determined by the mothers religion then yes we have a future problem. Each generation that intermarries it will be harder and harder to know who is Jewish. It is not just a name you slap on yourself. It is a religion that goes back thousands of years and each mitzvah is counted. While it is nice that two people found each other and got married it does not change the fact that if they have children the children are not Jewish unless there is a proper conversion. While to most it just seems tedious and unfair, I wonder why then there are strict laws that are specifically written out for a person to convert into Judaism. We are called the chosen people for this reason: Jews chose the Torah as the instruction for life. I know how hard it is to find someone you are compatible with and love, but the traditions and history that have been practiced over many many years are not getting stronger they are diminishing as people bend the laws to make it fit into their lives.
Monday 15 March
By GB
Oy
Monday 15 March
By ttrexxx
my grandfather once told me.."women are like streetcars.as long as you have a dollar,you can always find a ride." and leo has a lot of dollars.
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Monday 15 March
By Richard
I agree with you or rather your grandfather. A guy like Leo DiCaprio doesn't have any problems finding women to want to marry him. I'm sure he has a list of models, not just SI models, all anxious to date him. Bar is a cute girl. but I don't see a guy like Leo marrying her. He doesn't seem to be the marrying type. But should he ask her to marry him and she refuses based on religion (which I doubt would happen since I understand her mother adores Leo), then it would be her loss. Models come and go, but an actor like Leo, who is connected with some of Hollywood's biggest directors, will be around for quite a while.
Tuesday 16 March
By SandieSH
I am Jewish and my father said if I married the man, who wasn't Jewish,I loved he would disown me. I was young and I married a Jewish man which never knew how to say I love you. We both got into a marriage for everyone else and I divorced him 12 years later after 2 sons. My father who said everything my mother told him to said you divorce him we won't help you. They didn't have to.I held down 4 jobs, a hostess job, an amway distributor, a jewelry consignment in a bowling alley and magazine subscriptions. I am a stronger woman today and my sons were bar mitzvah by me alone and finished school and they can marry and have who they want. My one son bar mitzvahed his son and dates who he wants. My mother's whole thing was'How it looked to neighbors". It was the times. never found my true love again and just survived. Don't let others ruin your life. You pay the piper so make your own good and bad choices. Ask for advice too. My friends stood by me. But I make my own choices especially about love.
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Monday 15 March
By gourmandrusse
Sounds like you need new friends. I mean really, it's 2010 - is it really necessary to surround yourself with such close minded people? Plus, who made you such a doormat? All I heard were your thoughts throughout this article. Why don't you open and SAY something?
I would feel bad for you if it weren't for the fact that this entire article is some sort of passive aggressive exercise.
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Monday 15 March
By annetty
jewish poeple just like to keep the tradition going i dont think its persona;
Monday 15 March
By Alec
I can just imagine Leo DiCaprio reading this article. Actually, I doubt he even comes online, the guy seems to be living a really wonderful life and probably doesn't waste his valuable time coming on here. But for argument's sake, I can just imagine him saying to himself, "who's thinking about getting married??!!" I'm sure Bar is just the "flavor of the month". Besides, I don't imagine Leo and Bar are the religious types. For that matter, I would probably imagine that neither are their families. So this ignorant jewish organization you speak of would just be wasting their time.
Monday 15 March
By literate1too
Carrie,
As someone who welcomed my non-Jewish sister-in-law with open arms while watching my parents welcome her with a weak smile and a sense of defeat, I do understand much of what you've said. But what about the other side?
My brother's in-laws were no less thrilled at having a "Jew for a son-in-law" than my parents were with having a Christian. And I can give you unlimited examples of Christians not accepting Jews. Just the other day I overheard a conversation at a restaurant where one woman was complaining about her boss. Her lunch companion asked for the boss' name and after hearing it remarked, "I'm surprised. That's real Jew behavior."
And the time a co-worker said to me, during a discussion on inter-marriage, "Why would you mind if your daughter married a Christian? She'd be moving up."
I do agree with you on many points. But I wish you had been more balanced in addressing the issues.
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Monday 15 March
By John
As I read this article and various comments, I can't help but think of the films that have tackeled the moral pitfals of prejudice and intolerance. Idealistic films the like of Guess Who's Coming to Dinner, The Man In The Grey Flannel Suit, and too many other to mention. However, Hollywood tends to paint an idealistic picture and "real life" is reality. Having been raised a Roman Catholic I can NEVER recall a remark uttered by either of my parents that was intolerant or derogatory with regard to the differences of others, nor were we children allowed to express bigotry in any form. However,I can vividly remember a conversation that my parents had with my eldest brother, an intellectual and college professor, when they learned that he decided to marry a jewish girl born in Israel and living in NYC who was also an intellectual and a college professsor. My mother and father were attempting to to convince him to reconsider his decision and their reasoning was simple and forthwright. They explained that strong differences in tradition between people tend to create additional harship and difficulty in a marriage. I can remember thinking that my parents were wrong and even a bit hypocritical; that love can conquer all especially when approached intelligently. Now, as an adult I realize that their advise was sound and wise. I have learned that embracing the ethnic and traditional similarities in a mate does not necessisarily suggest intolerance. It simply makes a potential relationship less difficult. Life has a way of dishing out stresses that tear at peoples relationships or marriages, even in the besst of circumstances. Why add to this? By the way, my older brother's marriage lasted 12 years and the reasons for their divorce DID have much to do with their religious and traditional differences.
Monday 15 March
By kiki
It is no one buisness who someone is with...if you dont like it ,dont. No one gave any one the right to pass judegment on anyone..I think people are misunderstaning and twisting their faiths,whatever one they choose to believe in. I thinlk ever faith is all twisted around,and people are just following along to something they dont even understand anymore...
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Monday 15 March
By Marcie
When my husband (then boyfriend) told his parents about me, the first thing his mother said was "It doesn't matter, but is she Jewish?" Well, let me tell you, it DID matter. We are divorced now, and part of it was problems his family and friends had accepting me. He was 43 years old and I was the first non-Jewish person he ever knew socially. That should have been a big, red flag. If I had it to do over, I wouldn't have married him.
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Monday 15 March
By sc
I am Jewish and have been married twice to gentiles. My current husband and mother in law are every bit welcome to each thing we do and they welcome us to each thing they do, holidays, what have you. My family in itself is a mixture of different religions. None of my cousins married a Jewish person. We each are raising our children in whichever religion (2 of my cousins and myself, raising Jews, my brothers and my other 2 cousins not Jewish). We have our own and don't worry about the other. We respect the other persons holiday and join them to be with family on Christmas and Easter and they join us at Passover and Hanukkah celebrations. Good luck to all...
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Monday 15 March
By Lucinda
My husband is Jewish and I'm Italian. We will be married 38 years. My parents welcomed him with open arms. My father is very religious. My in-laws were very good to me. They treated me like a daughter. In this case my mother in-law was religious. The only problem we encounter was years ago we were introduced to this woman (Jewish) by my friend who was also Jewish. She had the nerve to ask my husband why he married me and didn't like it. He looked at her and said, I would never marry you in a million years. I met her again through another friend who Is Italian. I was polite but thats about it. Isee her from time to time , I ignore her if I can.
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Monday 15 March
By pilot5
I really resent your article because you seem to think your situation doesn't happen in reverse! Are you kidding me? Whole countries have declared 'No Jews Allowed' and their means of discouraging them from coming to the table was a lot harsher than name calling.
So happens my Jewish daughter has been in an inter marital relationship for eighteen years. My initial reaction as a parent was based on several realities. One is preservation of our race, and yes Judaism is a race. But with every intermarriage it is heading toward extinction. Do you want your race, whatever it is, and your religion to become extinct? We Jews have faced that problem a few times over the centuries and excuse us but we'll pass on it again. A second concern is the reality of cultural differences that come up on every Jewish holiday as well as Christmas, Easter and many other both learned and inherited beliefs.
Let's see, then their are the children. I adore my grandchildren but let's face it, the 'tribe' does become watered down and if this generation doesn't turn their backs on our beliefs and traditions than be sure that that next generation probably will. So happens my daughter has a good relationship with a good man but who knew ahead of time? Don't demean our concerns and write them off as prejudice or ignorance. I can say you could never understand our fears because you, young lady, are not Jewish. You are from a religion and tradition that, for now, rules the world and doesn't face our very natural concerns. We live and must survive in your world. Inter marriage is an enemy of our world because of caviler and blithe attitudes like yours. Bitching and moaning about a few minor beefs and a refusal to try to understand the life your husband came from.
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Monday 15 March
By James
"My initial reaction as a parent was based on several realities. One is preservation of our race."
Are you serious with that statement? It could've been written by a white extremist or any other extremist. Whether you believe this or not, I have never had a problem with anyone because of their race. I was raised to respect all people equally. But I do wonder why Jewish people are so often allowed to say things like the sentence above and not be called out as racist? Why is there a double standard for you and your race while everyone else would be immediately denounced for saying the same thing?