The girl: AllisonAge: 31
Job: Public relations
Where she calls home: The Midwest
Her sitch: Allison borrowed about $40,000 for her undergrad degree and another $80,000 for graduate school, and now she's swimming in the combined debt. Even though she's making about $60,000 as a PR exec, the $922 she's paying every month is rough. "My take-home is only about $3,000 a month, so a third of my salary is earmarked for student loan payments," she says. "I feel stuck, and like I can't get ahead. My husband and I want to buy a house, we'd like to start a family, but these payments are eating up such a huge chunk of my income." Oh, and she's got 25 years to go on the loans, so she'll be 56 before she's debt-free.
What was she thinking? Says Allison, "My parents didn't save money to put my sister or me through school, and I was pretty much told by teachers 'not to worry about the cost.' I even had teachers tell me not to go to a state school, because I'd get a better education at a private college. I was basically told to sign on the dotted line, and I did. I didn't worry about it. I figured it was just what you were supposed to do."
And graduate school? "I went to grad school because I felt like I only had a 'job' and not a 'career,' and I thought I needed a 'career,'" she says. "I liked PR, and even though I knew I didn't need a grad degree, I justified it by thinking it would be a good foot in the door. I don't know what I was thinking. I couldn't even afford to live on my own, really. I didn't get a lot of helpful financial advice from, well, anyone."
The twist: Because a third of Allison's loans are federal and two-thirds are private, she's been unable to get her payments adjusted. "Neither loan company will look at the other loan," she says. "So they think my payments are reasonable."
The expert's take: Unfortunately, Allison's in a tough spot, says Mark Kantrowitz, publisher of FinAid.org. "That's a debt-to-income ratio of two-to-one," he says. "She has a very high likelihood of defaulting." Because only a third of her loans are federal, that payment isn't high enough to qualify for a reduction based on her income. And private loans are much less flexible (and tend to carry higher interest rates) than the federal variety.
If Allison's loans hadn't already been stretched to 30-year terms, Kantrowitz would recommend an extended repayment plan to lower her monthly payments. As it is, 30 years is the maximum loan term available. And she'll be paying a fortune in interest. "When you extend a 20-year loan to 30 years," Kantrowitz says, "you're only cutting the monthly payment by 10 percent and you're increasing the total interest over the life of the loan by 60 percent."
And bankruptcy is not a good option. "Less than a quarter of a percent of people who file for bankruptcy are successful in getting them discharged," Kantrowitz says. "These loans stay around. And if she defaults, they'll garnish her wages."
How she can chip away at the balance:
Attack the highest interest rate first. You've heard it before, and it's still true. Allison's private loans are charging 8.8 percent versus 4.5 percent on her federal loans. Once she's made the required payments each month, all her extra cash should go toward the private loans.
Do the math. Allison's monthly payment on the private loans is $646. At that rate, she'll pay it off in 25 years. But if she and her husband were able to throw another $500 a month at that debt, they'd nix it in eight years instead, leaving them with just the $276 payment on her federal loans. Sure, that's a ton of money. But ask anyone who's ever paid off a serious amount of debt, and they'll tell you that you can do more than you think you can. "If she stays with the status quo, she's going to be struggling for most of her working life," Kantrowitz says. "And it's going to be very hard for her to save for retirement."
Think in terms of future dollars. "For every dollar she spends that doesn't go toward paying down her loan balance, she'll have spent $3 by the time she pays down that loan," Kantrowitz says. That $10 pizza? Imagine it costs $30. That $50 pair of shoes? Imagine you're dropping $150. It can put your miscellaneous spending in perspective and help keep you on track.
Take her belt in a notch. It's not what Allison wants to hear, but if she hopes to get rid of the debt, she needs to throw as much money at it as possible. "She has to come up with a plan to pay this off," Kantrowitz says. "And that usually means a very stringent lifestyle." Translation: selling a car that's costing her anything more than $150 a month (and buying a cheaper one), not eating out, opting for entertainment that's free. "It's a whole set of harsh choices," he says. If Allison were younger and unmarried, he'd have recommended she move in with her parents.
Luckily, she's in love, happily married and looking to add to her family, so scrimping now will help her celebrate a debt-free future.
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Kate Ashford is a freelance journalist who writes about personal finance and health (and other things). Without online shopping, she wouldn't own anything. Her work has appeared in Money, Health and Glamour. For more, check out HerTwoCents.com.More about Money on Lemondrop:
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Saturday 13 March
By Ouch
Your supposed to "think" BEFORE you leap.
You should have gone to a state school.
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Saturday 13 March
By AJM33771
Uh, let me understand this. They BORROWED money for education at a hoytee-toytee school and now are crying because they BORROWED said money? This is a sick society where folks want to make personal decisions and LET EVERYONE ELSE Pay is the mentality! Before you sign on the dotted line for those loans, it is explained to you AND if you don't understand the future ramifications, DON'T Sign Until You Do!!! What An IDIOT!
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Saturday 13 March
By Danie
Get a position as a LIVE-IN CAREGIVER / COMPANION TO THE ELDERLY and pay no rent and then pay down your debt. I did and payed off 5k in 2 1/2 months time.
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Saturday 13 March
By Jim
Oh, you poor baby! Try living on roughly $1,600.00 a month THEN come and whine to me about not having enough money. This amount has to cover food, car, and mortgage payments; I never eat out, never go out, because I can't afford to. Live within your means, toots. I am, however, appalled by the way student loans are structured and pushed on young, naive kids who really don't fully understand the future legal and financial ramifications of the documents they're signing at age 18. Oh, the pitfalls of capitalism that hardly no one will ever publicly challenge. I agree with The truth's remark about going into a humanitarian field, not some self-serving, self-absorbed finance or business degree which only creates more egocentrism and greed.
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Saturday 13 March
By jj
If you don't pay that loan, It's possible They'll take out of your SS when you get ready to retire.
Hmmmmm! That sucks!!
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Saturday 13 March
By jeff
Go to vocational school learn building trades, plumbing, heating, electrical or something else of your choosing. You might do just as well or better.
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Saturday 13 March
By LadyCoco
A 31-year-old GIRL? Somehow I don't believe you would call a 31-year-old male a boy. A girl is a female CHILD. At what age does a child become a woman? Certainly not 32. I'd say she becomes a young woman when she becomes as teenager.
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Saturday 13 March
By Debbie
If she's bringing home "only" $3000 not counting her husband's income, she must be spending much more than necessary. I currently bring home $1200 per month, have a mortgage and 2 children, one with special needs. I am the only income in the family as I am a widow. If I can do it, so can she. I understand that there are different costs of living in various places, but still!!!! If they would move into a less expensive place and carefully budget their spending, there is no reason that she should not be able to purchase a home and pay off the loans early.
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Saturday 13 March
By Not worth it
I went through college and was an art teacher. I was attacked and victimized on school grounds during the school day. The criminal act was covered up for political attainment, I was sold out!
So, I don't think a college education is worth a darn thing! In Utica, NY you do NOT need brains to go anywhere, only who you are related to or will do a criminal act for the powers that be!
So, in the end, if more desperate people in this situation take their lives, then maybe something would be done to chance the political landscape of who you know is how far you go, no brains needed!
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Saturday 13 March
By Not worth it
I went through college and was an art teacher. I was attacked and victimized on school grounds during the school day. This criminal act was covered up for political attainment, I was sold out!
So, I don't think a college education is worth a darn thing! In Utica, NY you do NOT need brains to go anywhere, only who you are related to or will do a criminal act for the powers that be!
So, in the end, if more desperate people in this situation take their lives, then maybe something would be done to change the political landscape of who you know is how far you go, no brains needed!
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Saturday 13 March
By Katt
POOR LADY_ she was so smart to go for the private school costs and get that better education but did NOT understnad what she signed? LOL - it was OK for mom & dad to pick up the cost though right? But since they did not ( the bastards) she should have to cover her OWN expenses- just can't feel her pity pot of WHY ME rountine. She BROUGHT her education much like one buys a house or car- NOW PAY FOR IT- PERIOD. STOP CRYING PUT ON THE BIG GIRL PANTIES AND GROW UP>REALITY
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Saturday 13 March
By petey
you borrowed to get a career.you got the education and the big paycheck,so quit whineing! pay your debt and shut-up!
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Saturday 13 March
By 'CAL'
I MUST REALLY BE THE LUCKEST PERSON IN THE WHOLE U.S. AS I NOW HAVE 4 COLLEGE DEGREES AND OWE NO MONEY TO ANYONE WHATSOEVER!! I'VE NEVER HAD TO TAKE A LOAN OUT AS WHEN I WAS GOING TO COLLEGE / UNIVERSITY, I ALWAYS TOOK A PART-TIME JOB. THE FIRST DEGREE, I LIVED WITH MY PARENTS. THE SECOND & THIRD DEGREE CAME AT THE SAME TIME AND I WAS MARRIED AT THAT TIME; HOWEVER, THOSE TWO DEGREES WAS TO GET EVEN WITH MY SPOUSE FOR CHEATING ON ME WITH MY BEST FRIEND. NOW, THE FOURTH ONE (A GRADUATE DEGREE) I GOT WAS WHEN I WAS WORKING FULL-TIME.
I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO SEE WHY STUDENTS HAVE TO TAKE OUT A LOAN TO GO TO SCHOOL. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, YOU ARE 'STUCK' FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS.
ALLISON HAS JUST GOT TO QUIT WHINING AND MAKING EXCUSES. 'OH, I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ALL I WAS DOING OR SIGNING'. WOW!! WHEN YOU SIGN ANY LEGAL DOCUMENT, YOU BETTER READ IT, AND REALLY UNDERSTAND IT, 'CUZ IT BECOMES YOUR FINANCIAL FUTURE.
ONE OF THE BLOGGERS SUGGESTED JOINING THE MILITARY SERVICE. THAT DOES SOUND KINDA' RIGHT AS OUR NEIGHBOR'S SON DID JUST THAT AND THEY GAVE HIM THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR HIS COLLEGE. MY NEPHEW ALSO TOOK THAT PATH TOO, AND HIS IN LINE TO RECEIVE MANY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ALSO.
ANOTHER SUGGESTION BEGINS WHEN YOU START EITHER JR. HIGH (MIDDLE SCHOOL) OR ESPECIALLY HIGH SCHOOL AS YOUR GRADES WILL GET YOU A COLLEGE SCHOLARSHIP DOWN THE ROAD. HOWEVER, THIS ISSUE, OF GETTING GOOD GRADES, HAS TO BE 'STRONGLY' ENCOURAGED BY THE PARENTS. YOU HAVE TO WANT IT AND WORK FOR IT. IT'S OUT THERE, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO WORK FOR IT. IT IS YOUR FUTURE!!
GOOD LUCK ~
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Saturday 13 March
By Steve
You better be a doctor if you paid that much to go to college, other than that here is how you deal with a student loan. #1 get a job, #2 start making the payments. this isn't a hard thing to figure out.
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Saturday 13 March
By s
welcome to the wonderful world of advanced education! i will be paying student loans til i'm dead. have a phd & a $60K job to show for it.. sad.
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Monday 15 March
By Katherine
I took out a $5,000.00 loan in 1981. After trying to get it paid, they "lost" me until 2000. So, I had to pay interest not because I didn't try to deal with them, they decided that I didn't exist. After moving 7 times, they found me and told me I had to pay the interest and apologized for not getting this cleared up in a timely manner, but since I took out the loan, they sold the loan and then I began paying it back at $104.00 a month. It's now 2010 and I'm only paying the interest and I'm in school again and have tried to get the loan deferred because my financial status has changed. I'm paying for school now and taking one class at a time. I'm not taking out any more loans and am really amazed that you can miss one day of a credit card payment and they hound you at least 4-6 calls a day. But, when a credit check is done in 2000 there is no mention of a school loan. At this rate, I'll NEVER get this paid off and it's only $5,000.00 and I'm in my 50s.
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Saturday 13 March
By Mike in Fla
I am amazed at how idiotic so many of your comments are. Don’t you realize the more you make the more you pay in tax’s??????? Federal/State/FICA and possibly the 401K and lets not forget about insurance. Then one person says…”Tutor someone in a musical instrument for $30.00 an hour”. What if that person does not have any skills in a musical instrument, huh?? Do some of you fools really think that it would be easy to teach a musical instrument for $30.00 with no musical skills?? DUH?? Get Real. $60K a year is not what is used to be people. Another thing is where you live? $60K in a small backwoods town is a lot. In Washington DC or NYC or LA is not much at all. All that said, I feel sorry for people including my daughters who are stuck paying off student loans. I did my best to help them, but they still have student loans. Not everyone is privileged. We all have our burdens to bear in life.
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Saturday 13 March
By BOOWAH
She and her husband have a third option.......default on the loans and skip to Canada. There they both could start over with decent paying jobs and be rid of Uncle Sam, the Pariah of humanity!
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Wednesday 17 March
By cj
They need to pay as much as they can on her loans while they are lookin for a house. Pay till it hurts. Then find a house that is worth more than what they are asking. Borrow the max on the house and use the extra to pay off the student loans.
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Saturday 13 March
By zeroagenow
When she says 'basically I was told...' I suspect she was told what she wanted to hear and didn't look at the math or the interrest rates. She got what she paid for and she can buck up and pay her debt. good ideas out there about working a second job and paying it off early too. I think alot of these sob storytellers expect someone to send them some money for their mistakes they made, good luck on that, everyone already has their own problems or someone in their own families that needs help.
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