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In case you're wondering, that hard-workin' man of yours who needs his weekend fishing trips and Vegas vacations with the boys actually spends 30 minutes a day more on leisure than you. Surprise! You're the one in dire need of a vacation.
According a new international survey, men spend more time watching TV, hanging with their buds, playing sports and pursuing hobbies than their female counterparts -- particularly in wealthy countries like Britain, France, Italy and America.
Unlike previous surveys, this one didn't take into account the ways in which women spend their leisure time differently than men, but researchers suggested that the discrepancy was due to women spending a larger portion of their free time caring for children. Hey, what's that sound? Could it be a collective teeth gnashing as women everywhere realize that in addition to all this funny business, men get paid more too?
Way to be, life-giving uterus, for dooming us to a fate of busting our chops longer and harder for even less money. AGH!
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Wednesday 10 March
By LaRaye
Well, duh.
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Wednesday 10 March
By Hjesarnik
tamanoso foolishly wrote-
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First off, southocmixdown, you're an idiot and need to not talk down to people who are clearly better than you.
Secondly, most studies show women talk less and yet use a more varied vocabulary than men.
Thirdly, neurological studies show that women use more of their brains than men.
Finally, societally women do the most and best work. There are more women than men in college even in the sciences where they face more discrimination and more violence than usual. Women are just better scientists and scholars in spite of everything.
Southocmixdown ... you suck. Please cut off your teensy dick. None of us want you and you're just wasting resources.
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Ya, thats a strong, scientifically-backed opinion if I ever heard it LOL.
Tell me something, "tamanoso"- WHICH woman supervised the building of the Panama Canal? Hoover Dam, Empire State, World Trade, Golden Gate Bridge? Apollo/Viking/NASA Shuttle missions? Saving the world militarily from /Islamic Extreemisn?, Facism /NazismTWICE, Dawning the Atomic Age? Theory of relativity? Curing COUNTLESS diseases and developing even more countlesss techniques and lifesaving equipment? And spare me your madam Curie crap, she is BEYOND being in the extreem minority, although a great scientist admittedly. But shes outnumbered 10,000,000 to ONE by the Jonas Salks, Einsteins, Galileo's and Capernicus's of the world.
As for your "nuerological studies" nonsense, its just that, NONSENSE, unbacked psuedo science propigated by embittered womens studies collegiate professors, who should have their credentials stripped, much less be allowed to fill your gordlike, college girl head with such utter fallacy.
You have been duped my silly little factless feminist twit. NONE of those things are true, unfortunately for you. But you know that already. Youre just spinning desperate yarns like the pointless, rage-filled loser that you are lol.
Way to tell him to cut his own dick off though. Im QUITE sure he would though, if presented the option of ever having to engage sexually with YOU. As would any other man in that same situation.
For god sakes, when did women get so damn stubborn and dumb, exponentially, at the SAME DAMN TIME??!!
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Wednesday 10 March
By chris Walsh
There are a lot of variables with this. If you take in to account a single mother, then that is going to make up a huge gap of it. There are a lot of variables, the research makes sense, but a lot of variables.
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Wednesday 10 March
By Amanda
/SARCASM ON/
Oh wow! Thank goodness for this article and the some of its impressive commentary. I mean, to think, up until I read these comments today, I had NO IDEA how pathetic my life really was. How could I have THOUGHT that I was in the right all along talking on my Blackberry for an hour or more to close a deal? I really should have been taking care of someone’s kids (since I don’t have any myself) or worrying about what other people think of me while I conduct business AND shop for groceries.
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I can only attribute this newfound guidance in my life to the enlightenment found today on this very page. Never mind the multiple post-graduate degrees, never mind the successful law practice, never mind the community organizations and chambers of commerce in which I participate, never mind my amazingly fulfilling relationship. No – it’s the suggestion and advisement I found on THIS WEBPAGE that’s going to get me to where I need to be. I just know it!
/SARCASM OFF/
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Maybe I should feel apologetic, as a woman, for never idolizing the so-called societal misconceptions of beauty or wealth because I fail to fit into these generic blanket-labeled categories that a commenter witnessed once-upon-a-time and now attributes to an entire gender. As an equally absurd parallel, maybe I should start ranting about the objective generalizations that all men are insecure, incapable of compassion, and lack attention to detail and how pathetic they are for being that way. These are clearly all untrue statements; sans the 2 or 3 men I have encountered who fit squarely into those 3 categories. All and all, many of these comments make ridiculous leaps in logic and assume opinion to be fact before making their statement. I believe little else could undermine their veracity or importance.
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The only advice I can give (whether asked or not) is to think for yourself. Take a moment of introspective pause and be proud and happy with who you are and what you do (mother, wife, shopper, professional, homemaker, shopaholic, or whatever). Unhappy, insincere, negative people will always try to tell you what you SHOULD be and fit you into some box they perceive is ‘proper’ and just. That is not reality. What you are and who you are is reality. Love THAT and f*** what someone else thinks about it.
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Wednesday 10 March
By jboiler68
ok lol. well those are pretty hard facts to dispute Hjes. that girl who originally wrote that sounds like a stupid 13 year old quoting from a college feminist textbook, not even an 18 year old college girl. trust me i know the difference. no need to even address fools like that. they serve no purpose in the discussion.
Oh btw- you forgot to mention engineering, aerospace, and automobile manufacturing, semiconductors/computers, quantum physics, atomic physics, and yes, even tv and motion pictures, ALL as things men pioneered. also all things these same selfish women enjoy and demand like water to this very day.
but dont act like theres not a chance, that behind almost everyone of those men who innovated those things, there wasnt a stong, competent and nurturing woman, who worked very hard behind the scenes to keep these highly accomplished men, on track with their personal lives and their careers.
just sayin' :)
sucks for the vast majority of the women opining bitterness here, that they expect to be elevated and treated like Madam Curie or Margaret Thatcher, without ever having to sacrifice one thing or even so much as cracking a book. For god sakes, theres no shame in being a supportive and guiding wife to a great man, or even a hard working average man. There just isnt.
if you want more or are dissatisfied with this reality, then you just have your own selfish and self entitled agenda, that you should probably see a licensed therapist for.
OR!!! just get your asses into college and ACCOMPLISH these great achievements for yourselves, instead of just sitting on here spouting nonsense about how women are scientifically proven to be smarter than men. I been around plenty of stupid men, and stupid women my whole life>> and i can honetsly tell you, that even the dumbest man in that group, stood a damn good chance of having more common, lifeskills-based sense than even the most scholarly women i knew.
dont know why that is, it just is. High time women stop tearing men down and start respecting it.
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Wednesday 10 March
By jboiler68
LOL@ Hjesarnik. glad to see we see eye to eye, well sort of, on this issue.
sorry but, that sh*T cracks me up, what you just brought up> seems like everyone on the internet, is either a famous rock star, hotel heiress, moviestar, or a lawyer lol.
If she is then great. hey we need lawyers too. but i just find the assertion that someone's career credentials(lofty ones usually it seems), make their opinions somehow more or less valuable on a FREAKING MESSAGE BOARD!
Funny how nobody ever claims to be a plain ol' office manager, receptionist or phlebotomist tech when solididying their credientials on the internet lol. everyone has to be a mega respected super achiever, so we can bask and bow in their oozing greatness.
Wednesday 10 March
By Bob who?
This is more fun than watching old Rocky & Bullwinkle cartoons
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Wednesday 10 March
By c.d. ladd
Now that is a comment with which I can agree! The comments trigger my sense of humor!!!
Wednesday 10 March
By Just me
Whats better in the cup the peanut butter or the chocolate. Who cares their just different there are some things that I as a man are ashamed of and embarrassed about and some thing I am proud of. There are some things that I thing are stupid women do and some things I am envious of. Some people would choose to do a task or work as their choice of free time and this study would not cover that. I think we should rate things on a case to case basis with a clear and open mind. My buddy bought an old VW bug a week ago and since then I see them everywhere. The question is did they just happen to appear or were they there all along and my mind just did not acknowledge them. I don't care of most women or men are this way of that way I only need to choose to be around the ones I choose to be around. Besides I don't have enough leisure time to preoccupy myself with the unhealthy people. Well off to ballroom class.
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Wednesday 10 March
By HF123
Caring for children doesn't count as leisure time! WTF! Men wonder why we complain about how nothing gets done or how they don't help us. This study just proves that they clearly don't take on as many responsibilities as women do. This seems like a really biased study.
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Wednesday 10 March
By Hjesarnik
Well said jboiler.
And believe me, Im NOT discounting the important roles/outright invaluability of those women in their men's lives.
And youre also right, in that theres no shame in standing behind a great, or even average man. Modern-era women are just suffering from the same delusions that their feminist 1960's elders pulled them down into long ago. Namely, that ALL women CAN and WILL be EQUAL to men, in ALL fields, at ALL times, and at ALL COSTS.
Life just doesnt work that way. And smart and reasoned females like you get it. As for the rest of the jibber-jabber Ive heard on here today..*sigh*..well lets just hope Darwin was right. Evolution will eventually thin out the herd of the strongheadded, but foolish people in this world.
And *ahem*, Amanda- We get it. Youre a lawyer. Youre highly accomplished. And youre a woman. And youre way above the fray of all the intellectual commoners in this comments thread. So please sit back and simply riffle your magnificent lawyer's robes and look on, while the rest of us low-rungers, duke it out and enjoy a resonable discussion on a semi-important topic.
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Wednesday 10 March
By brandonmil3
YES BUT WOMENS LIFE SPAN IS 7 YEARS LONGER ON THE AVERAGE THAN MEN !!!!!! AND THAT IS FROM A SCIENTIFIC STUDY ALSO !!! LOOK IT UP ON THE NET.
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Wednesday 10 March
By Rianub@aol.com
Ok for starters, a survey is hardly enough evidence to decide it's absolute fact. People lie, exaggerate and all sorts of other things that hamper evidence and will produce false results. That's a fact, you'd need to dig alot deeper into things, and even then you could only get that general region of the country because every area is different. You really wanna bet the omish are exact same as a couple in New York?
Another fact, the X chromosome dictates sex, not personality, estrogen and testosterone touch on some primal instincts but estrogen doesn't make you cleaner. Everyone knows more then one woman who can't clean to save her life. And Everyone knows a guy who can't, and then at the same time I bet everyone knows someone who has to have everything absolutely spotless and the smallest amount of dirt will drive them crazy. For every lazy man, there is a lazy woman, and in fact if you just use probability there's a higher chance of lazy women over men as the united states I believe Women out number men 3 to 1? On the same board you could easily say in China there are much more lazy men then women where a man is a dozen and dime to a woman. See how location changes things?
To finish, and this is just food for thought, and this is more for the woman activists rather then the male as I hear alot more from women then men. (Men apparently having it better and everything). If you want to promote your cause, gain equal rights, be treated and viewed the same as any man. Why make light of your differences? That's like setting a ice cube near a flame all you're going to do is melt away in difference. Equality is the removal of differeces. Instead of focusing on what makes you different find what makes you the same. Find a middle ground, a common ground. Something anything that anyone can relate. Saying things like "women work harder, women are smarter, men are lazy, men are stupid, etc." can only make the other side defensive. And can only really gain you pity. How can you be equal on the stance of pity? You can't, it's just that black and white. You want equality quit looking for how hurt and oppressed you are, and make the world see why you are "equal," not "better" then the opposite sex.
I personally believe in equal rights, but as long as there is a difference between everyone one, there never will be.
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Wednesday 10 March
By c. d. ladd
Wow! Seems the article really struck a nerve with both men and women! It is a shame any of us needs to compete with the opposite sex. Maybe we don't?
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Wednesday 10 March
By jboiler68
LOL@ Hjesarnik. glad to see we see eye to eye, well sort of, on this issue.
sorry but, that sh*T cracks me up, what you just brought up> seems like everyone on the internet, is either a famous rock star, hotel heiress, moviestar, or a lawyer lol.
If she is then great. hey we need lawyers too. but i just find the assertion that someone's career credentials(lofty ones usually it seems), make their opinions somehow more or less valuable on a FREAKING MESSAGE BOARD!
Funny how nobody ever claims to be a plain ol' office manager, receptionist or phlebotomist tech when solididying their credientials on the internet lol. everyone has to be a mega respected super achiever, so we can bask and bow in their oozing greatness lol
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Wednesday 10 March
By nancybears
hvesarnik&jboiler69--get a room you two^^ LOL
well, regardless, my original point in this thread still stands-
southocmixdown nailed it right off the top with flair, sound reasoning and fact in his original comments, and everyone has either been kudoing him, flailing their arms in circles in order to avoid getting eaten up by his logic, or just plain hating on him like a dumbass.
Either way, its great that he got a discussion like this started.
Good job. Im sure he's probably wrecking shop on people in some other thread somewhere else, right now.
ROCK ON mixdown!
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Wednesday 10 March
By jboiler68
true dat sistah! but ive read his[southoc's] stuff b4 in other threads, and it was just as well done and spot on as what i saw here today. only problem is, he gets alot of people personally attacking him. must have pretty thick skin to be able to log in and read all that bs.
but hey>> its like they say, once you drop the bomb in the right spot and level all detractors, why come back to the scene of the crime and finish off the peons? lol
and SCREW YOU BTW- i was NOT trying to get a room with ANYBODY!! LOL
theres been NO EXCHANGING OF EMAILS OF ANYTHING and im HAPPILY MARRIED..just so all you know.
oh great, now some stupid feminist slob is gonna call me out for being a old fashioned, mysogynist slut, instead of a well-informed, modern feminist slut lol
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Wednesday 10 March
By Hjesarnik
LOL
Well, actually, I think its kinda nice that theres any women left out there with enough intelligence and sense to know and accept lifes realities, without having to make some big, rediculous political statement about it, that does nothing more than puff up women and their built-in insecurities and faults.
Lord knows, men have them too. But we dont trumpet out horns as loudly at our injustices. Were a lot more likely to either sit in silence, or scheme something out to make it change.
Apparently, theres lots of women still out there who believe complaining and bitching about the state of affairs in their lives, especially to a captive audience of other like-minded, ignorant women, will make the bad things/men go away.
Well, hats off to fairy tales ladies.
Also agree with both of you on the original premise of the thread--well more than half of the women in this thread that were responding to southocm's comments in anger, brought about as much logic, facts and coherence to the table, as my Wheaton terrier would in a debate with Stephen Hawking. Speaks volumes for their positions.
If anything, he wasnt hard enough in his criticisms of what an unfortunate number of women have been doing to our society and our children, for almost 4 decades now. Take a walk through the any prison in America, if you dont believe me.
Oh thats right. You cant. Youre too worried about men having "30 minutes" more of leisure time per day than women do. Even though this thread, and the people commenting in it, have pretty much proven that assertion to be flat out bogus.
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Saturday 20 March
By JonhDoe
Wow you know a writer has done their research when they quote news paper instead of a study for their research! I wonder if they counted the time that most men spend in traveling to work (men generally are willing to travel longer distances for jobs) as part of leisure time? I wonder if they also counted the longer time men are usually will to work as 'leisure' time?
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