When Proposition 8 passed in California more than a year ago, at first all I thought was, For people who make such delicious Rice Krispie treats and interesting HBO characters, Mormons can be real jackasses. Raising all that money to stop gays from marrying in another state was obnoxious. Yet I wasn't really paying attention. I was too caught up in the magnitude of the presidential election. Obama consumed me.
Yet Obama's victory was greeted with sadly muted joy from the LGBT community. Prop 8 had turned what should have been feelings of hope into sadness. I offered little more than a pathetic shrug. I was comfortable with my unearned cynicism.
It was a weak reaction and an even weaker outlook. The world's not dumb, but certain people are. It took several months and a sad gay friend for me to figure out what Prop 8 really was: state-sanctioned hostility toward a minority group and a huge, mystifying blow to love.
Let me explain.
All the World's a Scene Beneath a Balcony
I believe in love.
Not because I've found it. I thought I had once or twice but ended up holding only myself. Finding any measure of real love is hard. The Fountain of Youth, El Dorado ... these were trips to the dermatologist compared to the search for love. But I believe it's possible to find, because I've seen it happen.
The kind of love that makes you want to get married.
It happened to me once. I wanted to marry a woman when I was 25. I was a kid in every sense of the word. She was only being honest with me when she broke my heart. By the time I reassembled myself, I was 3,000 miles away in New York City. Such is the power of love -- it can make you fill boxes with stuff and move that stuff over mountains.
In my new city, I got a new job. My boss was funny. One day he accidentally sent me an instant message intended for a friend about some particularly harrowing digestive problems that he was blaming on beer.
A weird thing for your boss to say to you. It broke my hangover. I laughed hysterically.
Soon, he wasn't my boss anymore. We were friends, riding a log flume of booze and laughs together over nights spent in pursuit of love. Our field reports were disparate -- my escapades with women were like horror stories from clown college ("... so then I sat on a packet of ketchup and it squirted all over her skirt!"), while his experiences dating men tended toward the depressing ("He kept talking about Chomsky. The waiter said he looked like Kenny from '30 Rock' and he got upset."). But ultimately, we were both looking for the same thing. And then one day last year, something happened. He met somebody.
He fell in love.
This is where we should leave him: with the world wide open and all the promise and portent of loving another person available and, by proxy, reaffirming my belief that I'd eventually find somebody too. But we can't.
People. People Who Need People. To Be Sad.
After my friend fell in love, 52 percent of Californians voted against same-sex marriage. My friend told me he was going to march and I was like, "To where, brunch?" Always with the jokes. He said, "No. In D.C."
So I went with him. A bunch of us did, including his boyfriend and Lady Gaga (not with us, per se -- but there all the same). All of us were joined together by being mutually pissed off and really f**king confused that members of our varied, great country are terrified of Gregory and Harold being legally sanctioned to wed and happily share a Blockbuster account but never really using it.
Then Maine happened.
The state of Maine approved a referendum overturning same-sex marriage. Maine! My friend loves a wonderful man who loves him back. But they can't get married in Maine. Many opponents of same-sex marriage point to the Bible as the backbone of their argument. You know what else the Book of Leviticus says, Maine? It says eating shellfish is an abomination. Time to take off those lobster bibs and put down your pails of drawn butter.
My state, New York, had yet to weigh in on the issue. I thought that at least my friend could get married here. I mean, come on, what would New York City be without gays? (Indianapolis.) And then the great state of New York, in the last breaths of a hard decade, defeated a bill that would have allowed my friend to marry the love of his life.
Marriage: A Mental Institution
Believe me -- I know marriage is not a guarantee that two people will love each other forever, or even that they did in the first place. I've seen folks on their wedding day look like defendants in a Burmese military court. I've known some people, many, actually, like my parents, who eventually made a mockery of marriage.
On a purely statistical level, heterosexuals are pretty bad at marriage, and that's only if you're quantifying it with divorce rates. If you were to throw in all the horribly unhappy, dangerous or loveless marriages in America, heterosexuals, en masse, should probably be barred from the practice. Yet we straights fill up governing bodies in lopsided numbers and vote that homosexuals are not worthy of marriage. The majority votes to restrict the rights of a minority? Sounds familiar. I remember being taught about this -- in history class.
But marriage has traditionally been between a man and a woman, the straights wail. Look, if "tradition" is telling two sane, unrelated adults who are in love with each other that they can't spend the next 60 years arguing over where to order dinner from and then just going with the Thai place they always pick and being passive-aggressive to each other through the entirety of "The Bachelor," then I propose a new tradition: reserve marriage for people who are in love, regardless of their pieces and parts.
But marriage is about procreation, the straights counter. OK, so I guess women who are incapable of having kids shouldn't be allowed to get married? Or old people? Or people who have no desire to have kids?
Why Prop 8 Made Me Believe in Love
By falling in love and being pissed that he can't get married, my friend has not only reinforced my belief in love, but he's made me a crusader for it. Let me end on a promise to everyone who is against same-sex marriage:
A) Love is going to happen, whether you like it or not. Lots of people who fall in love want to get married. Do you want to get married? Are you married? Do you realize that other people want the same things, and some of these people (they number in the hundreds of millions) are gay? The federal legalization of same-sex marriage has to happen, just as the federal legalization of interracial marriage had to happen back in 1967. Can you imagine a world where mixed races couldn't get married? Your children will feel the same shock when they realize same-sex marriage was illegal. Which side of history do you want to be on?
B) When this happens, nothing in your life will change. The only people whose lives will change are the gays and lesbians, who will get to feel, finally, the same exact thing that I hope some woman I'm crazy about feels for me some day: utter disbelief that I'm wearing my windbreaker inside-out again.
[Redacted] Guy is the resident Single Guy writer for Lemondrop. Most of the Lemondrop editorial staff is confident they could take him in a cage fight, but this is a (mostly) untested theory. He loves rain, waterslides, and the orca show at Sea World, because they hide the fact that he's been crying. You can easily access all of his columns here.
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Thursday 04 February
By WonkyPoo
Ugh, it totally drives me crazy when people talk about the purpose of marriage being procreating. Being unable to have children myself, I want to ask them, am I half a person? Should I just be in a fucking coma? Do I not deserve to be happily wed for the rest of my life? Then I realize that if my long term boyfriend and I were to get officially hitched it would be just for the health insurance. Which also makes me think of how many straight couples get married for convenience, or for legal reasons, just because they can but gay couples who really love each other can't do it. Time to go hit my head against the wall.
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Wednesday 03 February
By Charlie
Amen, amen!
I don't believe in religion but I do believe very strongly in God and in following His path in this life. God's message is one of love, peace, knowledge, truth, justice and freedom. It is the Devil who wants hatred, war, ignorance, lies, tyranny and oppression.
These so-called children of God who are fighting gay marriage, who are spreading ignorance, pain and hatred, will someday find out they were fighting in the Devil's army and may God have mercy on their souls.
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Thursday 04 February
By Kathleen
What?
Wednesday 03 February
By CM
Redacted,
You are my hero.
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Wednesday 03 February
By L Sparks
The issue Christians have against gay marriage reflects clear back to the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. These cities had legalized homosexuality and sodomy was commonplace. The bible shows these cities as an example that a society that normalizes homosexuality is in the final stages of corruption prior to destruction. Whether you believe in God or not is irrelevant. He's in charge no matter who does or doesn't like it, or who does or doesn't believe it. God has warned us, and also brought judgment on two cities to show us He won't tolerate it. To those who say that God is love, yes - He is, if you follow His commandments. Those commandments are designed for our protection and well-being, but He also gave us the right to choose to disregard them - at our own peril. We may not like many of our society's laws, but we have to respect and obey them because they are the authority. God is the ultimate authority, and if we do not obey Him, we face not only the destruction of our society, but also dire eternal consequences. Gays and lesbians are blatantly defiant of God by their lifestyle choice, no differently than those who are guilty of adultery or fornication. All of us will answer to Him for our choices.
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Wednesday 03 February
By Annie
you don't get to choose which parts of the bible match your own thoughts and feelings. They should all apply, shouldn't they? Whatever happened to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"? How about "Love thy neighbor as thyself"? Or here's another one "Let he among you who is without sin cast the first stone"? Why are you so quick to judge here on earth when you say god will have the final say anyway? It's not like you are policing criminals who hurt innocent people. Adults should be able to marry anybody they want and don't need you throwing "convenient" biblical arguments at them.
Wednesday 03 February
By tangilct
L Sparks, have you actually read the story of Sodom and Gommorah in the Bible? I have - a few times in Bible Study, and actually researched some historical facts. You should pull out your Bible if you have it and look in Genesis 18-19 for the story. Nowhere in the story does it say that either city was practicing homosexuality. It never comes up.
But what about trying to rape God's angels? Well it depends on what translation you have - some say they want the men so that they can "know" them and through a misconception it has been assumed that they mean to rape the Angels.
But even if the men of Sodom planned on raping the angels, this is after God has already decided to destroy the cities. If you read the ENTIRE story, God tells Abraham in chapter 18 that he plans on destroying both cities because "the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous" (Genesis 18:20). Abraham then bargins with God to spare these cities if God can find 10 righteous people in the city. God sends the angels to Sodom, where Lot meets them in the square and invites them to his house. The men of the city go to Lot's house and demand that he give up the strangers, but Lot offers his 2 virign daughters, they insult Lot, and then the angels' minds are made up and urge Lot to escape so they can destroy the town.
What's interesting is that God never states what that great and grievous sin is that these cities have committed. It could be homosexual lifestyles or simply not paying their tithes. Scholars believe that these cities are guilty of taking advantage of the poor and the aliens among them. It was a sin to mistreat aliens (or people not from your city), sort of like mistreating a guest in your home. Hospitality was culturally significant - as it was assumed that no person should be threathened when living in an alien land during this time - and as evident in the way they treated Lot (an alien in their midst) and even the visiting angels, it's more likely that they were mean to and took advantage of visitors rather than being sexually explict or homosexuals. If they were homosexuals, why would Lot even offer his daughters?
And if you really believed that all the men of Sodom wanted was to have sex with the angels, then you have to remember that what they were trying to do was rape them - which is not love or even sex as a natural inclination. Rape is a form of dominence, violence, and abuse that is not use to sate a sexual desire, but to control and sate a thirst for violence and destorying another person. Maybe God was pissed that the people of Sodom and Gomorrah would rather cause harm and violence to others, not that they liked other people of the same sex (if they even did).
It's sad that we Christians give these half-@$$ed excuses to what God thinks or finds to be unforgivable, thus putting degrees on sin in general, based on lessons other people tell us. Without ever looking at the evidence ourselves. I grew up "knowing" why Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed, but had never took the time to read the story for myself until a few months ago, and boy was I shocked by the gross assumptions I had made. Sodom and Gomorrah are not a valid arguement against homosexuality or the ban on gay marriage, and we need to start teaching the truth about it...
Wednesday 03 February
By chris
You said:
"To those who say that God is love, yes - He is, if you follow His commandments. Those commandments are designed for our protection and well-being, but He also gave us the right to choose to disregard them - at our own peril.... Gays and lesbians are blatantly defiant of God by their lifestyle choice, no differently than those who are guilty of adultery or fornication. All of us will answer to Him for our choices."
Here are those commandments:
1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.
3 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
5 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.
6 “You shall not murder.
7 “You shall not commit adultery.
8 “You shall not steal.
9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”
Uh, I'm assuming there's a 10.5 or something that says "Don't be gay," right?
Friday 05 February
By michelle
Youre sad
Thursday 04 February
By Chris Van Nevel
I'm sorry...I must have missed the commandment that stated..."Thou shall not be gay" where might I find that? And more importantly, the only argument that can seemingly ever be provided against gay marriage is a religious based one...never a legal one. Has thou forgot "separation of church as state?"
Moral issues have no place in this decision. You, myself and the entire world can feel however we like personally about gay marrige...that is the beauty of being a citizen of the US of A.... Blatant discrimination however...is NOT legal and to disallow one group of citizens not to get married is NO different that saying.. "Oh..you're black...or hispanic...or asian..you can't get married!"
What affect does it REALLY have on you if gay people get married? None....your marriage has NO impact on me...why would someone else's?
People like you are the problem...and why I am SOOO against organized religion...and why you turn people like ME against it. Will you explain to God on judgement day...why you felt that using HIS name as your format makes it acceptable for YOU to judge? I mean...I believe God told us.."Judge not lest ye be judged." You don't see THAT as an abomination? I'm thinking that might piss him off just a bit too...don't ya think? But by all means...carry on...lol.
Two points in conclusion;
A. Present me a LEGAL argument that shows why gay marriage shouldn't be allowed....and not a relgiously based one and I will consider it....having researched this at length...you can't...there is no legal reason that we should not allow this...
and B. Believe whatever you want...teach YOUR children your morals....you have that right....You have no right to force those views on others....I mean, after all, He's YOUR God...YOU burn in hell...
LOL...
Saturday 06 February
By x3XDestregaX3x
the 11th commandment: thou shalt not take it or receive it in the ass, if thou brandishes a penis.
oh wait haha....silly me... there's only 10!
therefore your argument makes no sense. and you hypochristians have a WAY wrong look at the bible. e-mail me, and i'll explain it to you, and show you what the bible REALLY is. p.s. the stories in it are just for time reference
Tuesday 09 February
By Mark
Um, clearly you didn't actually even read the Bible, or even the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, or you wouldn't be saying such stupid things. Sodom and Gomorrah were NOT destroyed because of homosexuality. TO say that they were clearly shows you didn't even bother to read the story. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because they were generally corrupt, and inhospitable to strangers, robbing and killing them, among committing other inhospitable acts.
Yes, it's true that the people of the town wanted to rape God's Angels, but...they were Angels, which were specifically NOT humans. Not to mention that in the original Bible, not the English versions, the original Bible, the word used to describe the people who came for the Angels was a word which specifically means both men AND women. The entirety of both towns was corrupt, and to say they were destroyed because of homosexuality is to show little to no understanding of anything the Bible says.
Oh, and on a side note, it's interesting to point out that though many anti-gay activists point to Leviticus as the main section in the Bible damning Homosexuality, many denominations of the Church have in fact said that Levitican Law no longer applies to us. I mean, it DOES say that menstruating women must be kept away from society and anything they touch while menstruating must be burned, while any man they touch must be ritually purified in a ceremony involving the sacrifice of doves.
Not to mention the Bible contains many more lines dealing with the proper price to pay for a slave than it does about homosexuality, but I guess we should just forget about that because it makes us look bad.
Tuesday 09 February
By Jay
Sparky, you need to re-read your Bible & stop spouting superiority on something you clearly know nothing about. The act that brought about wrath in Sodom & Gamorrah was that the local men were planning a rape of the visiting angels (not knowing that they were angels, but still...). They weren't planning to gay-marry them, they were planning to rape them. When Jesus talked about it, he condemned the "inhospitality" - the mistreatment of those who are "not one of US." Which sounds a lot like how YOU treat homosexuals - so you are the one who stands accused according to the Bible.
You need to grow up and stop committing the blasphemy of worshipping above all your own personal comfort zone and twisting it around to say that the Bible supports you. THAT is the ultimate vanity and blasphemy you commit.
Tuesday 09 February
By Jose
Dear L Sparks, how ignorant can you be? If you call yourself a Christian, then you should at least try to be instructed in the history and tenets of your religion. The sin in Sodom and Gomorrah is that of INHOSPITALITY. And, in your ignorance, just as your ancestors in Sodom and Gomorrah, you are most inhospitable to your fellow human beings...and you vey well know what punishment awaits you for such sin. May God forgive you!
Tuesday 09 February
By Antoinette
This is my first comment on this or any other site. I just had to respond. I totally agree with you, I could not have said it any better myself. I have a few "Gay" friends. I do not discriminate against them or judge them in any way because we are all God's Children. But I also tell them the errors of their ways. I say it and move on. Because I do not have a heaven or a hell to put them in.
We as Christian heterosexuals can be so hypocritical. We get on our soapbox and talk about the lewd and lascivious behavior of "Gay" people as though we have not sinned ourselves. Everyday you here that someone is sleeping with someone else's husband or wife. Are those people being publicly criticized for their behavior, or course not. It is those people that are usually yelling the loudest against "Gay" people.
I had attended a churh that asked a "Gay" couples to leave but those who fornicated and committed adultery were allowed to stay. I know that to be true, personally. I have fornicated and from my sins I have two children out of wedlock. I can not hide my sin it is there for all to see. I did not abort them either, I also had that choice (that's a whole other topic).
The 7th chapter of Matthews says it all and it reads, " judge not that ye be judged. It goes on further to say, " you can see the mote that is in your brother's eye but not the bean that is your own eye." It reads "thou hypocrite first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the beam out of thy brother's eye.
The bible also says, "he that is without sin, let him cast the first stone. I am going in the house because I know I one of those stones has my name on it.
Wednesday 14 April
By Jan Blasingame
Excuse me? I don't remember any of the ten commandments saying thou shalt not marry someone of the same sex. Adultery, yes. Have you seen the news lately? Good grief, if we should be destroyed by immorality it would be due to the politicians, sports figures and celebrities, your neighbor, Redacted guy and me. The majority of which commit adultery(which isn't just married people). There was a lot more to the story of S&G than homosexuality. There were politics and war. You're such a great "Christian", go back and read your Bible, better yet why don't you have someone knowledgeable interpret it for you. Geez I hate it when people use religion to judge people. You homophobe.
Wednesday 03 February
By sarah
I loved reading your words, thank you.
I am a straight woman and I hate the idea/ the fact that religions or other faith like ignorance should impose their rules against freedom!
I come from muslim family where homosexuality is taboo and prohibited, even with all this hate that they try to put in your brain, i always went beyond stereotypes and ignorance! I am not proud of myself because i just feel it's normal, natural, like mutliraces weeding, which is beautiful!
What i never wanted or what i ever wanted for me i wish it for everybody in this world.
We should never forget that we are not immortal, don't take yourself or your wrong ideas too seriously and let people live their life as they want, it is not going to hurt you!
Lol, as i fighted for homosexuality in my family and friends sometimes i think it's my fight, someway yes it is, i want, i wish to live in a world where acceptance and tolerance of all differences are the religions #1!!
LET the rainbow shine, long live everybody;
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Wednesday 03 February
By ladykaiala
so let's say for arguments sake that being gay is actually a choice and a sin....if I remember correctly what I was programmed with in Sunday school, every single human on this planet is a sinner and we will all continue to sin until we die whether we choose to or not. so why do straight sinners have the right to marry and gay sinners don't? not all sinners are created equal? and if Jesus died for EVERYONE including gays, then where do you get your logic from. not to mention that your religion and your bible was rewritten by the likes of Constantine and king James to fit their own bias and agenda. lsparks, you're nothing but a bigot in sheeps clothing. people like you are the ones that Christ spoke of when he talked about the blind leading the blind and that many will call my name yet few will know me.
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Wednesday 03 February
By PattyPunker
Bravo! All of your statements are spot on. So well done. I'm straight and feel exactly the same way as you. Thank you for putting it all down here.
L Sparks: "Whether you believe in God or not is irrelevant" is the only thing you wrote that makes any sense. I don't care if you do believe in God, last I checked we weren't using the 10 commandments or bible stories as our governing laws in this country.
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Tuesday 09 February
By MEGAN
We do use some of the 10 commandments for our governing laws.
1.) Thou shall not steal.
2.) Thou shall not kill.
3.) Thou shall not bear false witness. Do you not go to jail for lying under oathe?
4.) Thou shall not commit adultery. Is this not grounds for a divorce?
Think before you post a comment.