I've been single since the Sumerians were settling Eridu (if you believe this psychic in New Orleans who told me my soul has been around -- and single -- since the sixth millennium B.C.), so yeah, I've been on a lot of dates. I won't claim I'm an expert, but I know enough to actually be helpful to you lady readers. In the interest of both men AND women, I give you the eloquently titled, painstakingly wrought
Things Women Do On Dates That Suck That I Wish They Wouldn't Do Anymore
Checking Your Phone
Look, guys know that the friend who calls you exactly 30 minutes into our date isn't really in the hospital with Toxic Shock Syndrome. It means you're not interested. But if you're actually into a guy you're on a date with, put away your damn phone.
I know that it's tempting when you feel your phone vibrating to check it out (hell, I want to too), but just don't. I promise I'll inevitably get up to pee out some beer, and the suspense will have made it all the better when you can see on your Blackberry that your friend Melissa just ate a questionable taco.
Complaining
If you're already unhappy about the selection of the bar, the seats at the restaurant, the crowd, the ambiance and/or the noise level on the very first date, how is date three not going to be an episode of "The McLaughlin Group"? I often marvel at how willing people are to get negative right from the jump, whether it's about the actual date itself or their own lives (overbearing mother, oily boss).
Look, we're on a first or second date! We might mash face or even genitals. Let's keep it positive!
Unabashed Disappointment
You were hoping I was a young Paul Newman but instead discovered I'm more of an "Aliens"-era Paul Reiser? I'm sorry about that. Hey, I feel those pangs of disappointment, too. I really want to meet the love of my life and was hoping you were gonna be it. You're not. I'm not. But we just ordered martinis. Maybe we could just have fun anyway, despite my not owning piercing blue eyes and a salad dressing conglomerate?
Not Getting That It's Not Happening (This One Is About You Too, Dudes)
When a girl wants to see if a guy is interested in another date, she's typically sweet about it. Like, "Hey I had fun, hope we can do it again soon!"
Dudes, however, are rarely that pleasant. First, we make assumptions that a second date is imminent (a text like "When are we getting that drink???") If we want a second date and you don't, we often get all apocalyptic and start acting like Mark Wahlberg in "Fear."
If a guy won't text or call a girl who likes him, this is usually when she will -- if I'm to believe romantic comedies -- polish off a magnum of crappy Australian wine with her girlfriends and curse his name. That's a much healthier way to deal with a brush-off than smashing the windows of her dad's Corvette.
Really Not Getting That It's Not Happening
Look, you have to be conscious at the end of a date. Not in terms of sobriety, but in terms of social and behavioral cues. It's possible to get all the information you need on whether or not things are working in the moment of your goodbye, if not in the hours preceding it.
If he or she's not clearly proactive about the prospects of seeing you again, just shut it down. "That was fun" does not constitute affirmations of a future date. It's date-wrap-up boilerplate, just like how saying "God bless you" to someone who just sneezed doesn't make you a Lutheran. Your date doesn't want to see you again. Respect that.
Asking If I'm Free Tomorrow
Really? We just met. We're out now. Even if I like you, we're probably not going out again the very next night. Why? Um, I don't know, because we both have lives? Because that means you're a little too available?
Rudeness to a Bartender/Server
Deal-breaker. Straight up. It's over. Unless the waiter turned your thighs into Freddy Krueger's face by spilling a bowl of piping hot lentil soup on you, you have absolutely no reason to be rude to the waitstaff, ever, especially on a date.
Having Immutable "Rules"
Oh, you "hate reality TV?" Get over yourself, banker dude! If she wants to talk about "Jersey Shore" (God help us), that's okay! Dating is awkward and painful a lot of the time, so even if a girl's taste in television makes me question her reading level, I try to go easy on everybody and just have fun.
Likewise, just because I'm a Red Flag Machine and your mother would clearly loathe me doesn't mean you have to submarine the date from the get-go. This also goes for being disappointed in the person physically if you've never met them before. Be a nice guy and maybe you'll have a new, flat-assed female friend.
Watching Me Eat
God, dinner dates are the worst. Oh yes, please, scrutinize the face I make when I bite into something surprisingly spicy. Don't worry about me, that's just a huge glob of white creme fraiche I'm wiping off my dumb lips.
You know what? Let's not go to dinner on date one, all right? I need to get to know you before I'm willing to be in a position where I've unwittingly squirted you with Bloomin' Onion grease.
Talking About Your Ex
Hey! You know what I don't care about? Your last boyfriend. Not yet, anyway. On a first or second date? I'd rather hear about your gynecologist's cold hands. Even if it's relevant ("Oh hey, my ex used to play basketball there!"), I don't want to hear about it.
OK, team. That's my wish list. If you could have your dates stop doing one thing, what would it be?
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Sunday 31 January
By Page Larkin
My Top Ten DON'T DO on a First Date~
1. Arrive late and fail to apologize.
2. Post an ancient photo of yourself, which doesn’t remotely resemble you.
3. Assume the other person will pay for coffee. You are a big girl/boy.
4. Take and make phone calls during the date.
5. Share details about your divorce. Nobody wants to hear about it. Really.
6. Advertise you are divorced, when you're really separated. Truth in advertising is big in this area, too.
7. Ask your date how much they weigh, their height, age, or salary.
8. Regale your date with stories of your past trophy dates and exploits.
9. Step out for a smoke. Return with a toothpick. Yawn. Three strikes - yer' out!
10. “Go HR” this is supposed to be a coffee date, not a job interview.
It's a jungle out there...
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Friday 12 February
By Sandy
I agree with the basic premise of the "put away the phone" but what about those of us who might do that out of fidgeting nervous tension...not right maybe, but not really intended to be a mark against someone personally.
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Wednesday 26 May
By Stephanie
You know - you sound so cute! lol Didn't see that coming. Great tipsand love the satirical advice. And yes, no dinner dates please!
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Saturday 31 July
By Ruby
I'm 34 today, and have been married for a very, very long time to my best friend, and all that soul mate stuff. My single friends share their nightmare dates with me, and I shake my head each time at them, their dates, and all of it. I am but an observer, but I definitely agree on these points.
Whether it's a date, or just drinks with your girlfriends, PUT AWAY THE DAMNED PHONES. Look, go play with your online farm or Mafia, or have a meal and a drink and some real conversation with me. But DO NOT try to do both. Be the friend you want in others, and that goes for dates as well. You don't look important or popular with your nose in your phone. You look like your mother never taught you manners and have zero respect for the real world, and are completely lacking in spunk, which is why you're spending every minute of the day looking to others for entertainment. Don't be a soporific dullard and have a real conversation with a real-life person. They might not be 'the one' but they also might be FUN.
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Sunday 19 September
By Jo
I have mixed feelings about the phone issue. I do agree that sometimes single parents need to check their phones to make sure everything is ok at home. The last time I turned off my phone on a date, when I went to check it at the end of the night, found I had missed several calls and texts from family members desperate to contact me, because my mother was in the hospital. She's at the age where she's starting to have some serious health problems. So now I don't care how rude someone might think I am, I'm too paranoid to NOT check my phone. Also, girlfriends often text each other when one is on a date to make sure everything is ok and there are no safety concerns and no one needs rescuing. We try to do this in the bathroom usually, but sometimes it doesn't work out that way. I don't feel the need to explain myself and the cell phone use to my date all the time either. If someone is that narrow-minded and judgmental, I'm not interested in dating them.
So I would appreciate it if some of you would stop making assumptions that all cell phone use is rude and phones should be shut off and never looked at during a date. I agree if someone is texting silly things to friends continuously or taking calls that could have been ignored, THAT is rude, but come on! There's no need to be so harsh. Things are not always black and white. That's my opinion anyways.
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Friday 12 November
By Christinme 0:-D
hahahahahaha that woz so funny too read :-D
especially the eating one.
All the things listed are usually the other way around.
Me being the feminine Genius and the guy comin out wiv such silly things.
Its cute though. I always find Guys amusing when they are trying to be Gentlemen.
1. I do admit tho I dont like to see guys picking their noses while eating ( Please at least use a tissue)
2.Spitting while you are walking with them trying too look cool ( Honestly spitting is not cool unless you hav jus swallowed a wasp)
3.Scratching their privates in a classy Resteraunt ( if you hav too scratch maybe its time to get sum cream from your local GUM clinic, or pleasee at least excuse yourself and go to the gents to do so. Also big piont please wash hands after you dont wana be holding hands wiv a beauty across a candle lit table and for her to say " wot is that awful smell?" hee hee
4. compliment a woman please she may hav gone to alot of bother even if you think she looks more like she hasnt had a date in her life ( maybe she hasnt but she may be a perfect box of suprises inside ;-)
5.Dont boss a woman round, If She is a strong independant exciting female she will see you as a Child get up and walk away from her date. ( no explination needed really)
6. BRUSH YOUR DAMN TEETH :-) I dont know any lady who wants her first close up of a guy to be bad breath.
7.OPEN DOORS AND PAY THE BILL (chivalry is Sooo important to a woman even if its just a chippy she will remember the fact you wer a gent rather than the venue)
7. Let a Woman Be A Woman and at least sound interested in what She is saying.
( women can sometimes test a guy too see if He really is listening and taking an interest, if he fails He is not suitable as you couldnt spend your life nor time nor energy with a Georgeous man who never listens)
8.Dont Propose on a 1st 2nd nor 3rd date. ( She may be circular dating to see who fits and who doesnt with her life style but you need too gain more than just her interest for her to want to marry you.)
9. Guys Please dont pretend to be someone you are not
10. dont get Jealous with other guys looking at your lady and pick fights with them (all that will ring in the ladies head is VIOLENT TENDANCIES, WHERE IS THE NEAREST EXIT?)
11. Ladies PLEASE DONT BE A WINGE NOR START WHINING NOR NAGGING.
MOST OF ALL NEVER BE BUTCH ( a real man is looking for a lady of feminine energy) Not a dude in a dress who makes her date feel like he isnt the strong Champion hunting for His prize) got it?
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Monday 10 January
By Stitch
I spent this weekend mulling over a weird situation with a guy I've been seeing for a few months and finally decided to google "that was fun" AND dating dos and don'ts. The first hit was this article, and I'm so happy I took the time to read it before sending the rather lengthy email I'd prepared for said guy.
Let me clarify, "that was fun" was his statement after our first sexual encounter and several months of effort to get to that point. I took this as a sign of disrespect, something you'd dispassionately say to a one-night-stand if you never wanted to see that person again. And yet he still wants to hang out and doesn't seem to feel that way.
Reading this article really helped me to let go of what I thought he might mean and just be honest with him (and myself) and have a face-to-face about where this is going. I plan to do this Wed. *crosses fingers*
Thank you!
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