Can't you just hear the frustration in Clarissa's voice? Read on for our advice.
"Reformed Player" John DeVore takes on Clarissa's question to give us some insight into the male mind, and as expected, it's not pretty: "Men stop calling for a reason, and usually, that reason is that they're not interested in you, or that they're more interested in someone else". Boom. That's it. Men don't call you back to tell you such things because, John says, women are more verbally agile than men and would make men feel pressured to "articulate feelings that you don't have words for. It's like Matlock versus Chewbacca." You know, that's true -- we ladies are really smart ... wait, whoopsie, I was so busy feeling flattered that I forgot how ridiculous that excuse is.
He continues the man martyrdom by admitting that dudes can be chickensh**s who would rather just disappear and have their actions speak for themselves rather than actually saying that they're not interested. What I love about this time-honored tradition of the "no call" is that both men and women behave in such clichéd ways, and yet it's women who are thought of as psycho. (See: The Slow Fade) Our wanting closure isn't any more psycho then your complete and total avoidance of conflict, fellas.
John then says a few things that actually piqued my interest. He has apparently stopped calling women because he felt, even on a first date, that the woman was so commitment-happy that she seemed more into the idea of being in a relationship than she was into him, and that he felt the expectations were too high right out of the gate. I'm a firm believer in taking responsibility for one's own actions. Ladies, how many times have you put the cart before the horse, attempting to shoehorn a new man into the role of "boyfriend" way too early? Have you ever just flat-out ignored qualities in a new man that you know should be deal-breakers because you want something to work so badly? The Reformed Player's comments are a good reminder that we need to be sure we're dating the guy in front of us -- not the guy in our head. Instead of deciding you want to be in a relationship and then setting up a date, wait for the date and see if this is the guy you want to be in a relationship with.
Since we're not sure what happened in Clarissa's case, all I can really advise is that, completely independent of men being cowards or women being psycho, closure may be more important to you than it is to the guy who blew you off. If a guy you dated falls off the face of the Earth, realize that he just didn't want to date you for whatever reason, learn whatever lessons about yourself you can from it, and then seek out your own closure: Send him a nice text message letting him know that you think he's a nice guy, but you're just not willing to get into a relationship with someone as cowardly as he is right now. Or just forget about it.
What do you think? Have you ever had a guy disappear? Have you ever thought of as a guy as a boyfriend from the first date and had it backfire? Do you have any good techniques of getting closure after a guy disappears? Talk to us!
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Monday 21 December
By y martinez
i had a guy friend who use to change his phone number once he was "done" with a girl, i told him he should grow some balls and simply tell her that he's not interested. i've had 2 guys do this dissapearing act on me. finally once i did it, and i was amazed at how out of their way some guys went to find me! (who's psycho now?!)from showing up at my door on a friday night, to creating a FB account to look me up... i was flattered, and then realized it was cowardly to just dissapear... i'm working on my "communication" when it comes to "being over" someone...
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Tuesday 22 December
By laura
Bitter much, plleay?!? LOL!
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Tuesday 22 December
By Lauren
Stupid much, Laura?!? LOLOLOL! :)
Wednesday 23 December
By Rosey
Wow plleay your comment is a little harsh.......very disrespectful and inappropriate. Women are not stupid, maybe just a little more involved in the wrong type of men than they should be. So its a blessing in disguise,realized a few weeks later, that the JERK (especially ones that think of women the way you do) did not continue to call. Not calling, answering, or returning phone calls to "break it off" is a clear sign of immaturity no matter what the reason. Both men and women do it, and both MEN and women don't understand why its the one they actually like that does this to them. You never even notice when the ones you could care less about stop calling -thank goodness. If you ask me it's just all part of the dating experience.....no biggie.......cause Karma is a big Bitch!!!!
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Tuesday 22 December
By somebody42
You people really need to moderate these threads and filter out the misogyny. plleay and Ben's comments are appalling. This is really inexcusable.
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Saturday 26 December
By veh
I hear ya ... shocking that a brain would think that way ... they must allow blogging in some mental wards....
Tuesday 22 December
By AuntJenny
I don't see the point of making a call that goes, "Hi. I don't want to talk to you anymore." If you leave a couple of messages and don't hear back, that is your answer. Go back to the bar and find another winner.
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Saturday 26 December
By veh
Wow lol " Ben" and "everybody 12 " sound like the same guys...
Disrespectful to women in both blogs and life, no doubt ....
Anyway
Lately Ive been dating great guys that I dont feel chemistry for.. its hard to explain why... but I hate calling the guy to end it when they have been so great and tried hard...My friend who is a dating coach has a great line... "I like you but I dont feel a romantic connection" Formal yet gets the job done..
"Romantic" sounds less personal than "Chemistry".
Those who avoid calling seem disrespectful as a friend... be kind and say the words ....
People can invent negative stuff about themselves that may not be true...
being their own worst critique.. Id rather hear a reason such as " I dont know why, cause your hot, but Im just not feeling it " some excuse to cushion the blow. I'll get over it in a day. Just dont drag it on with games.
But Ive had guys try to talk me into seeing them and thats annoying... or my girls friends will ask "why what did i do wrong"..thats awkward.
Tuesday 22 December
By laura
plleay (a.k.a. Ben, a.k.a Lauren), I have to assume that you are somewhere between 16-18 years old. I just have to. If that's the case, I apologize for calling you bitter. You are just young and immature, but that's not your fault....you just have a bit of growing up to do. If I am wrong about your age range, then to be honest with you, I am scared for any woman that comes within 5 feet of you. I hope that any girl that lets you date her figures you out a.s.a.p. I wish you luck (but also recommend intense therapy & medication) with all of your issues! Keep your chin up!
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Tuesday 22 December
By Janelle
AuntJenny, haha you hit the nail on the head. These delusional cat herders want to lecture some poor guy who has already had to endure these stupid b*tches yapping all night. Now he's supposed to call them back for a formal lecture? LMAO! Get a clue.
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Tuesday 22 December
By Blanka
Hi, people! what a heated discussion! Let me ask you a question. I have dated the guy for a month and a half. He was crazy about me. Finally we end up in bed enjoying each other and I assure you, we both did! The next day he didn't call me back and until today I haven't hear from him. I neither texted him nor called him. Yet the question remains. Please, help me figure this out. Is there a rule after you have sex or what the hell? And guys, I AM NOT AN ANNOYING BITCH! I took it as it is, no call- no bother. But why?
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Tuesday 22 December
By AuntJenny
Did you call him? Why is there this assumption that it's wrong for the guy not to call but a non-issue if the woman doesn't?
Saturday 26 December
By veh
Ive heard of guys doing that...bailing after sex... and its so lame to be on the receiving end..To be honest ,If you have a weight issue that could be it ... Seeing fat without the clothes , can be a scary experience ...I just ended it with a guy that was too skinny .. long distance runner...no muscle tone.. just loose skin, some lean thin muscle and bones... although he was cute, and made me laugh I could not handle touching him.. felt like a skinny chick...
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If your not fat ..maybe it was a lack of skill or sexual response?
or maybe the challenge was over and he switched gears or met someone else around the same time that wasa better fit...... but it seems lame and selfish that he would " work it" just to see what you were like in bed..Its hard for women to get it that guys are so controlled by their sex drive and only care about what they can get out of a situation...and even worse ,some guys are just weirdo's like a few of the above blog guys who have similar writing styles but claim to be different (jerks) people .
hhmmmmm
They are so creepy and weird, they could be " fake characters", created to keep us intrigued.. Jerry Springer coo coo dudes...
The normal, real guys, who are also commenting, surely are far superior men in every way , compared to the foul mouthed writers who likely , "Didnt get enough love from their ma mas" and are all screwed up and are trying to slam decent women to feel superior .( If they are real). They don't even realize how ridiculous they seem..
They are an example of how people can be so messed up and abusive .
They are likely addicted to porn , cigarettes and booze...
Saturday 09 January
By vern
Have You considered maybe he didnt want to assume things were more than the sex so he gave you space and is wundering why you didnt call him ?
Tuesday 22 December
By Roy
Blanka, ok look this is what most girls don't get about guys: we are trying to get into your pants. That is our main goal. Once we get in your pants, then we decide if we want to have you around as a girlfriend. That depends on your personality. But before that happens, we need to know if we are sexually compatible with you or not. This is what most women fail to understand because they are so busy trying to rescue their low self-esteem from the truth. They don't want to hear about whether or not they are too fat or too ugly or too boring or too b*tchy or too annoying. No. Instead they want to blame the guy or just make up excuses in their head for why the guy didn't call back when the answer is really simple for a guy. Either you were sexually compatible or not.
You have to look at it the way girls look at emotions. Girls have to know whether a guy is able to take care of their needs in order to get into a relationship with him. And a large part of this is meeting her emotional needs. Emotional needs for girls are like sexual needs for a guy.
Imagine if the guy you're dating never talked to you, but only wanted to have sex. You would never date him.
The same goes for a guy. If you never suck his d*ck, if you never put out, it doesn't matter how amazing your personality is, he DOESN'T CARE because guys need to have their sexual needs met just like you need your emotional needs met. If you realize this as a woman, then when the guy doesn't call back, it will finally make sense. Just because you wait a month thinking the guy will stick around if you don't put out on the first date is just fooling yourself. A guy doesn't care WHEN you put out. He cares if you DO put out, if it's any good and THEN he will worry about whether or not he likes you and wants you in his life as a person. Making him wait does nothing other than confuse you as to his real intentions.
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Tuesday 22 December
By GCA
Seeing the posts from you lovely people make me even happier that I am getting married in a month. The guys on the market right now aren't worth a crap, reading this is proof. You all seem to be emotionally bankrupt with no way to even relate to a real woman or to be part of a mature and real relationship. Sex first then a commitment? Guess again. Real men meet you halfway. You guys treat women badly and then whine that you can't get a hot chick or find a decent realtionship. Real women don't settle, they run away from losers like you. You are doing these women favors, believe me, by not calling. Saving every woman the trouble of getting involved with a total loser is a priceless gift, so keep it up puss--s!
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Tuesday 22 December
By Brooke
Why would anybody marry a stupid bi--ch like you? Your husband is going to divorce you so fast it's gonna make your head spin. I feel sorry for that guy. He has no balls to keep a bi--ch like you in check. You are proof that only fat fugly bitter women end up online to complain about men that rejected them. So you ended up with a loser who has no balls to dump your ass. Get real you stupid twat. Why would any guy waste time on a fat fugly like you when he can get sex from hotter women without all the hassle of the lecture and scolding. Real women aren't butch dykes like you that try to control men. That's a turn off to all real men. Real women are feminine and know how to act like a lady. You are doing the rest of the men on here a favor by going away. No guy wants to see an angry fat bi--ch like you go on and on with her big mouth. And i'll bet money this fat fugly is a PORKER... WHAT A LOSER! :) LOL
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Wednesday 23 December
By Chingo
I certainly like this discussion and would like to put my two cents in for whatever its worth....First ladies: if a man just disappears on you and never calls you back let it go....he is obviously not man enough to say sorry this will not work....2nd: take a look at yourselves in the mirror and ask yourselves what it is you possibly did wrong, was it necessarily you? NO! There are many scumbag loser guys out there who would be more then happy to f**k and chuck you its just the way of the world. Dont put out right away and the men who are looking for just that wont stick around...Now men....you do have to be quite shallow to not let a woman know your intentions and then just ignore her...its not cool and you can ruin peoples emotional lives...just because us as men can generally bottle that little emotion and just store it away does not mean women can...we are wired differently(and no, women i am not slamming you i'm on your side with this not giving you the respect to just break it off and tell you debate).....Ive actually noticed a way better response from women when you tell them off the bat in a roundabout way you are not looking for misses right or miss right now but you are looking to see where it goes...with that being said obviously women you dont put out until YOU feel he feels you are misses right....its just how it goes...like my current situation im totally having fun with this girl and from date #1 i told her i did not want a GF at this time and here we are three months later still having fun going on dates and doing things together...do i know where its headed NO....do i know where we are right now YES....does she know all of this yes because I tell it straightforward and thats all that matters...just be honest with people
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Wednesday 23 December
By Vale
Chingo you are a sackless faggot. First of all, girls NEVER let guys know their intentions. So you sound like a straight up stupid BITCH when you try to scold guys for not being honest. Guys are not honest because they learn that girls are not honest. If girls were honest, guys would be honest too. But you are a sackless FAGGOT blaming men only. This shows you are pussified guy with no balls to stand up to women. Save us the moral speeches until you grow a spine. Girls are not into sackless faggots who hate their own gender. You are PATHETIC.
Wednesday 23 December
By Lostyournumber
Why do we stop calling? Uh... for the same reasons women do? It's not rocket science, this relationship thing. Treat people like you want to be treated and always keep your breath fresh!
These articles are both funny and a little scary for me. 1) Funny because the author generally picks a "source" that essentially trashes men and implies that their "source" is representative of our gender. 2) Scary because there are people that read this fluff and believe it.
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