On Friday we brought you Lizzi Miller, the plus-size model who recently appeared in Glamour. We were excited to see a woman who looks more like the kind we see in real life, belly pooch and all, instead of the stick-thin versions that normally grace magazines. As Laura put it, "Real women have curves...and that's the way it was meant to be. Who wants to hug a stick-thin, emaciated skeleton...?" While a lot of you cheered the mag for featuring a "real" woman, others, like Momof4, jeered it for suggesting that "you can't be a real woman unless you're hefty, 'curvy', [or] big boned."
"If they want a magazine called fat and fabulous, then, damn it, make your own and get whatever size models you choose, but to promote yourselves as being real while implying that skinny people are fake is both hypocritical and immature," she said.
But Yo Mama thinks she's missing the point: Of course thin women are "real," but they're what we almost always see in the media, and getting a break from them is, well, nice: "...By saying that she is real, I'm not saying that naturally skinny people are fake. I'm saying that they are finally accepting that the typical woman is beautiful too...Skinny women can be beautiful too but that's all we ever hear about. Other women deserve to be accepted and told they're beautiful as well."
Tiki agrees: "The idea that people accept chubby as well as muscular, skinny, toned or airbrushed is a joy all by itself. Some people do exercise but they still look like page 194 girl."
Tell us: Are slim women not "real" women? Do you think people would have the same reaction had Glamour featured a super-muscular woman? Do you think magazines should show more different-looking women?












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Tuesday 25 August
By Autumn
I hate it when people say or think that skinny women aren't 'real.' I, as much as anyone, adore the fact that women of all sizes, shapes and types are getting the recognition they deserve! However, its not just skinny women who are being considered 'fake,' it also seems to be athletic women as well... As apparently athletic looking women are just as bad as an emaciated body... It would be great if all types of women (average, athletic, skinny, short, chubby, curvy, and muscular etc...) are represented in magazines... Its a pity though that we have to have a discussion on this topic, the inclusion of everyone seems like a pretty obvious decision!
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Tuesday 25 August
By T
Women with curves deserve to feel beautiful absolutely, but not at the expense of women who just don't have that type of body. I find the phrase "Real women have curves" is almost always followed by an insult to thin women. I don't have curves. I have a very straight figure. I don't appreciate being considered less of a woman because I have a 'boyish' or athletic figure. Putting one woman down over another is not the solution to issues of body image. Real women come in all shapes and sizes.
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Tuesday 25 August
By Melissa
My roommate and I hate the fact that every time an average sized woman is on tv or in a magazine that she is advertised as "real." It's incredibly offensive. The show More to Love has commercials that say, "Finally a show with REAL women," then show a bunch of skinny reality tv girls and say, "this is not reality." Well for the 2 of us, it IS reality. We are two size 2's and that doesn't mean we starve ourselves or obsess about the way we look or how big we are. Granted, skinny girls are in the media a lot more, and I'm sure it's nice for average sized women to have something in the media to relate to, but that's no reason to chastise us size 0's, 2's, and 4's. "Real women have curves?" Well I don't have any curves, and that's just the way it is - does that make me any less of a woman? There's nothing wrong with having larger sizes portrayed in the media, but hey, we are REAL women too!
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Tuesday 25 August
By Elissa Steidley
People are people, skinny and fat! Unfortunately only the thin have been promoted, making the heavier thicker person become an outcast! What needs to happen is that television/movie producers need to cast equal numbers of all size men and women. There are just as many beautiful "non skinny" people out there as there are thin! Cast them both. Let the world see that it is ok to be who you are! You are beautiful in your own skin.
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Tuesday 25 August
By Katie
I'm glad people are finally realizing that you don't need to be stick thin to feel pretty. It shouldn't matter if women have muscle, are sickly thin, or are a little thicker. People should start looking for the interior not the exterior. Personally, I have a little more muslce then I would like and I'm not the tallest person either so should that make me miss out on modeling just because I'm not as tall as them. I also think that people that are super thin like that look sickly. People are not supposed to be that skinny, I mean if you miss meals to stay thin then that's crazy. Skinny models don't look like women at all they look like men because of thier body type. I mean we shouldn't say they aren't "Real" women because they are, but women that look heathy I think are more real then they are. by far!
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Thursday 27 August
By Vivian
Katie, some people ARE supposed to be that skinny. Asian women are supposed to be that skinny. I eat all I want and more than is comfortable for me (just because I love food so much) but I am and always have been skinny, and I do not look like a man.
Tuesday 25 August
By Melissa
Katie, no women are "more real" than any others! That is the whole point!
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Tuesday 25 August
By L.Z
Katie- some people are skinny naturally. They have fast metabolisms. Around the world, especially in eastern european countries you will find women who are tall and skinny naturally and eat whatever the hell they want and dont starve themselves.
It really is offensive when they say that "this is what a REAL woman looks like"
Im skinny, not too skinny. I eat healthy, in moderation, and get a little exercise so im always in very good shape. Does that not make me real because i dont have a tummy pouch.
Or maybe i should stuff my face with cake everyday, eat a meal big enough for 5 people and then i will be a real woman.
I feel like this is a way for heavier women who have been feeling left out- to make us feel bad- to make themselves feel better.
But its considered ok for some reason.
if a skinny woman criticizes a heavy woman on the other hand, its like she killed someone.
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Tuesday 25 August
By Clare
I usually dont respond on these types of things, but today I felt like I had to. I am a "skinny" woman. Always have been always will be. I don't starve myself, I dont go to the gym every day and I DO eat fatty foods! I agree that statements like "skinny women arent real women" or "real women have curves" are ridiculous. My girlfriends and I are all thin and we are all real women. We just happen to have good genetics- why should we be made to feel bad that our bodies are the way they are? And just because a woman is thin does not mean she doesnt have other insecurities about her body. Heck - my boobs are flat as hell I would love to have me some curves! But, we are stuck with what we are given and I think we should all just try to be happy about life instead of worrying about our bodies.
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Wednesday 26 August
By Taylor
Thank You! I’m so sick of everyone and feel bad for people who do not "like" how they look, but there are ways to change that "curvy" woman are so vicious and are the first to throw stones. Because you can tell a skinny girl she needs to eat BUT you could never tell a "curvy" girl to stop eating!
Wednesday 26 August
By jillian
as someone who is small naturally- and pretty sure I'm done growing- I'm glad that all shapes and sizes are being celebrated. but I do get tired of hearing the jeering about being thin. and now being "super thin" is "sickly" and "gross". why can't we all just support one another? I'm just as real at 115 pounds as anyone else is. and this condescension isn't just on the internet and magazines.
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Wednesday 26 August
By Angela
As a woman who's been at my max a size 22 and at my lowest a size 4 (now a happy and healthy 12), it was nice to see an article about being comfortable in your skin. Not your size, but just as you are now. It was nice to see a woman who was (hopefully) barely air brushed, very little visible makeup and a genuine smile on her face. I honestly didn't notice her size until I read this article and the one before. I think a real woman is some who stands up for the "little guy", who believes in herself, stands her moral ground, helps her community, and lives a genuine life, not someone who describes herself as skinny, thin, chunky, chubby, curvy, etc. Sorry if I got a little "soap boxy"!!
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Wednesday 26 August
By Jenn
As someone who is a survivor against anorexia this makes me angry actually, right now i would still be classified as thin i believe and this hurts my feelings. Why do people always have to make some kind of comment against people who arent the same shape as they are. Why cant we all just embrace each other for what we all are. I dont judge anyone for their size so its kind of hurtful to hear that someone is saying things against people my size. Its kind of hypocritical if you think about it, because bigger people dont think its ok to have things said about them, but its no problem to hate on thin people. but we have feelings to. and were not fake, we just happen to feel better physically and mentally when we are the shape that is best for each of us, for some of us its thin, for some of us its a bit softer and fuller, theres nothing wrong with either way so why not stop hating on everyone whos not what you are and just love all of our shapes and sizes.
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Wednesday 26 August
By Andrea
As much as I think this is marvelous, I just have a problem with labeling her as "plus". There doesn't seem to be anything "plus" about her and that's been my hang up. I have a friend that is probably the same height and weight and I would NEVER think of her as plus. I think of Queen Latifa as "plus" size. Am I wrong? Am I just seeing plus as a negative? Regardless, its refreshing to see ALL sizes (and heights! I'm only 5'3 and NEVER see that in magazines) represented equally because maybe THEN all of us with body issues will finally see that our bodies, any size, are just "normal" and beautiful as is. But for magazine to pedestal one size, one shape, as much as I'd hope we'd try to not let it get to us, I think it just does eventually.
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Wednesday 26 August
By Holly
This is exactly what I wrote about in my blog, http://whatitfeelslike4agrrl.wordpress.com
I'm sick of bashing people for whatever reason. It's crap.
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Thursday 27 August
By Vivian
No matter what, there always will be a standard for beauty, and there will always be people that do not fit this standard. If everybody is beautiful, then nobody is beautiful. Maybe in the next issue they will portray an otherwise pretty model with horrible acne, and everyone who doesn't have perfect skin all the time will feel better. But we all know that the acne itself is not beautiful, and as the model in the Glamour issue admitted herself, the tummy pudge, while inspiring, was not flattering.
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Thursday 27 August
By musiqisluv1989
I'm also super skinny, or I guess according to Katie I'd be 'sickly thin' at 97 lbs. No I'm not anorexic or bulimic, I eat a lot of food daily. I've never tried to starve myself, & I'm always trying to find ways to gain weight. I'm sick of people telling me that I need to eat more & 'get help' for my 'problem'. Just because I don't have curves doesn't mean I'm not a 'real' woman. Yes I wear a size 0-2...that's not my fault. It's also not my fault that I can't gain weight. High metabolisms do that to people.
At the beginning of the summer I weighed 85 lbs, the same weight I was in 5th gr, I'm a sophomore in college. I finally gained weight after I got on birth control, & when I began eating pretty much all day. I am done growing. I'm 5'4" & 97 lb. I might gain more weight..doubt I'll get any curves. Sorry that I don't constitute as a 'real' woman to some people, but to me, I am. I'm happy with my body, so is my boyfriend.
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Thursday 27 August
By Deasal
Why is it that we seem to easily accept men of all shapes, sizes and ages in the media without much hype but the average woman presented in the media is tall, slender and young? And such a fuss when someone steps outside of this mold? Of course there are a few acceptions; the "character actresses" and a few other women who have worked hard to make a name for themselves despite not fitting into the Hollywood/Fashionista standards. Humans come in all shapes and sizes. Viva la difference! lets shut up about it and move on to important things.
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Thursday 27 August
By melanie
When did thin become "bad" or "not real". I don't think anyone should feel bad about their bodies if they are healthy, but lets be realistic, some people are fat and they don't take care of their bodies, it's not a social problem it's a health problem.
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Thursday 27 August
By Larger than LIfe
Having been a large person all my life I understand that skinny people would take offense to this.
However, I take offense to being called fat, bubble butt, amazon...
I am 5'10" and weigh 170. I have a large frame. I tried to get skinny. Did it too. I looked like a crack head.
It should be about personal happiness and healthy bodies, not who's fat and who's skinny.
Come on people can't we at least try to grow into better people. I know it's hard not to judge people by their appearance, but if we all give it a real try all the time, maybe, just maybe, one day we can be decent to everyone regardless of how they look, what they wear, where they worship and who they love.
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