As the debate over health care reform heats up this summer, I'm in grave danger of tearing my hair directly out of my head if I hear the word "socialism" one more time. Look, every time the word "socialism" crops up, your internal lie detector should sound a code red. People who use the word "socialism" to describe anything that the Democrats are proposing with regards to health care either don't know what the word "socialism" means, or are cynically exploiting the former group's ignorance. Republican National Committee chairman Michael Steele has made his contempt for the average intelligence of his own voting base clear. When an audience member asked Steele during a recent speech if Obama's health care plan was socialism, Steele simply answered, "Yes. Next question."
It's hard to decide what's more insulting -- that Steele thinks it's appropriate to lie so blatantly, or that he thinks that the public is too stupid to notice that he's lying. Unfortunately, a whole lot of people out there really do think that we're one health-care-reform bill away from living under a communist dictatorship.
Charges of "socialism" are popular with conservatives trying to find easy, if mindless, ways to denounce universal health care. In part, it's because it's hard to know how to respond. Do you start asking people what they think socialism is and try to assess what they think the dangers of it are, or do you just deny that any of the potential bills have any relationship to this so-called socialism? Both strategies have their pluses and minuses.
Click here to read Amanda's take on the "Socialist Scourge" after the jump.
Some tactics for dealing with the question of socialism:
1) Define socialism and then discover what's so wrong with it. Most people fling the word socialism around to describe a system much like that in Western Europe -- nations that have a strong social safety net and a lot of labor protection. Socialism is used to describe England's National Health Services, France's 35-hour work week (with five weeks paid vacation), or the tuition-free universities in countries like Germany. But the existence of these benefits doesn't make Europe any more socialist than the United States.
Why not? Well, just like the U.S., most European countries have an economic mix where some parts of the economy are run by the state and some are left to private enterprise, and some are a a bit of both. The U.S., in fact, has "socialized" education through high school, "socialized" highway systems, and even "socialized" fire departments. Most people screaming "socialism" don't have a problem with free highways or public schools, making them socialists in their own right. And yet, capitalism hasn't gone away. Spending two or three minutes in Paris or London, where advertising is as prevalent as it is in New York City or L.A. would confirm this to any reasonable person.
2) Point out that there's nothing "socialist" about the proposed health-care reform. The cry of "socialism" is there to hoodwink you into thinking that the Democrats are trying to move us to a single-payer system, such as the one they have in Great Britain, where the government provides your health care for free, and everyone's on the same plan. This would be great from my point of view, but sadly, it's not what they're actually proposing.
Instead, it's a hodge-podge of reforms designed to make sure more people can buy private insurance, mainly by limiting what an insurance company can dump you for. There's also a good chance we'll be allowed to buy a publicly owned insurance similar to Medicaid, which should warm the hearts of anyone who believes that we should have more choice. Republicans trying to shut down this option are simply removing a choice from your plate and forcing you to go with private if you don't want it. But it's completely silly to pretend that a plan centered around making sure you can keep your private insurance is "socialist."
A quick perusal of the RNC's Web site opposing universal health care shows that they fully intend to fight back through disinformation and outright lies. That includes the banner picture showing a line out the door of the emergency room. Obviously, the intent is to make you think that if everyone is insured, they'll all go to emergency rooms and clog up the waiting room ... instead of what? Does the RNC actually think that people without insurance will stay at home and die instead of going to the E.R.?
In truth, universal health care would do a lot to cut down on waiting times in the E.R. And a lot of people who typically use the E.R. as primary health care would be able to go to a regular doctor before their situations became dire if they had insurance. If waiting times for hospital treatment are your concern, then you should be a supporter of universal health care. And if the opponents of health care are being deceitful about that, what else are they being less that truthful about?
Amanda Marcotte is the author of "It's a Jungle Out There" and writes about politics daily at Pandagon.net.












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Friday 24 July
By bitfit
This country has the best health care in the world, so why do we need to change it? People from all across the globe travel here to get the type of medical care that is not available anywhere else. Are you willing to give up the type of coverage that you have so you can cover the cost of providing medical care to illegal aliens? Wake up America.
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Tuesday 04 August
By Seth Kahn
I'm sick of hearing the rallying cry, "We have the best healthcare system in the world!" It's simply not true. We *do* have the best health care that rich people can buy, no argument there. But that's not the best *system*; it's the best for some few individuals who can afford whatever they want.
As for the "a public plan would put the private insurance companies out of business" argument, so what? If private insurance companies can't compete with a public option, it's because they won't be able to bloat their profits on the backs of sick people any more. Gee, that's sad. If they want to compete, they need to be competitive; if they can't be competitive, that's their own darn fault, not patients'.
And to reiterate the point that the Republicans can cherry-pick individual instances when government-run care has failed--I know probably a thousand people who have lived in England and/or Canada. Not A SINGLE ONE OF THEM has reported any negative experience whatsoever with either system. Yes, there's an occasional hiccup as in any system (including ours, which some of you tout so highly). But to claim that those systems don't work is, not to put too fine a point on it, a lie.
Poor, working class, and even middle class people, young and old, are dying because they can't get treatments. If you don't think that's a problem requiring a quick and thorough solution, you're a monster.
Saturday 25 July
By Amanda Marcotte
In other words, Donald, you're saying that we should force the American public to pay more for insurance to keep it private, because the insurance companies can't be expected to compete in a free market. Why not just tax us and hand the money over to the stockholders in insurance companies, if you think this is about funneling our money to the already-wealthy?
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Saturday 25 July
By Donald
The relationship between the insurance companies and their insureds is a voluntary contractual relationship. The insured voluntarily pays a premium to the insurance company in exchange for the insurance company's contractual assumption of certain risks on behalf of the insured. To put it simply, the insurance company pays for the insured's medical expenses in accordance with the contract. The insured does not give (gift) the premium payments to the shareholders. The consumer is free to comparison shop the insurance market for the best coverage available. If the insurance company is not competitive, they will lose business to the more competetive firms. If the administration wants to cover the uninsured as a moral or policial goal, let them be honest and "up front" about it and simply state that it will be necessary to tax the citizens accordingly to pay for it, as some other countries do. Instead, the administration misrepesents its goals, and has already stripped $640 billion from Medicare as a "down payment" on their proposed program, which will diminish the quantity and quality of medical care for the elderly. That is blatantly immoral. You know as well as I that the ultimate goal of the liberals (progressives) such as you, Amanda, is to enact a compulsory single payer health care system. This adminstration and the majority in Congress have lost all credibility. You are just one more liberal/progressive idealogue using blogs to spread the liberal philosophy. Your arguments about these issues are neither cogent nor persuasive. "No sale"!! I will not waste any more time on this site.
Sunday 26 July
By Elias
I believe each citizen should have the opportunity to read the bill directly if they choose to do so. Please stop treating the private citizens as bumbling idiots and give us the transparency that has been promised. We do not need senators and congressmen to explain how they see the bill. A bill such as this is too big not to disclose it in writing to the general public before a vote. Start believing in the people.
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Wednesday 05 August
By Mark
Congrats to Donald and Lisa for explaining this fiasco in real terms. Socialism is the government taking control and this is what Obama wants to happen. We all know that congress passes the laws but who has been politicking 24-7 the last month to push this through? Just think what this law will do to the small business owner who does most of the employing in this country. Mandatory health care or pay a penalty. Do you think unemployment can reach 15%? Just watch as see if this goes through.
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Thursday 30 July
By April
free health care for illegal aliens and hospice for your 60 yr old family members who would have a chance if only the gov. would give them the correct meds...that sounds awful to me! How could anyone ever agree with something like that??
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Tuesday 04 August
By Joe
Absolutely. We must deny that socialism even exists. Why, it is merely a myth told to small children as a bedtime story in old Mother Russia. Who could believe such a fairy tale could come to life in America. Fools! Fools, says I! Ignorance abounds! We have an ignorant population believing silly stories! Socialism... well ... hahaha... what a joke! We don't call it socialism anymore, ignorant fools, we call it "social justice." Didn't you people get the memo! So, please, stop using that evil brand socialism! That is SO five minutes ago!Its "social justice". Doesn't that sound sweet, kind, and innocent? We worked so hard, marxist friends, to build up this new brand name, and darn if people won't use it! They keep calling it socialism!
We're not worried, peasants! Not worried at all! Look, we told you fools we weren't going to raise your taxes a dime... but we found a new way to raise revenue for "social justice". A way that they can't call a "tax" no matter how hard they try. heehee! We'll just "cap and trade" and stuff that makes companies pay money to the government. Of course they will just pass the cost down to YOU, but hey, thats not a TAX. Get it? We must all sacrifice for the common good. Prepare to give us all, and recieve only what you need, and never again dream of what you want, you selfish peasants! So, no, we are not worried at all! Why should we? You silly people took this stuff hook, line, and sinker! We can sell you anything! Hahahaahaha
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Thursday 06 August
By Joseph
Universal Socialism
so⋅cial⋅ism
Use socialism in a Sentence
–noun
1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.
In the interest of fairness,I have included a definition of socialism above.
So I guess number 3 would best fit what the Democrats propose to do,Socialism in Marxist Theory.
The President has said as far back as 2003,he is in favor of a Single Payer Healthcare System. Single meens one,meening the Government would eventually controll Healthcare such as they do in Canada and the UK for example. The government could not even get the Cash For Clunkers Program right….how in the hell could they possibly get Healthcare right? Simple,not only can they not….they won’t.
I saw on TV how the White House is going to know whom people are that are saying bad things about Healthcare….what the hell?
The proposed program is a joke,I say it is….why would anyone care what I say about Healthcare or anything for that matter?
The Republicans are nothing special either mind you,however while the good guys such as Rush are doing all they can to help kill the Socialist Marxist Healthcare Proposal…..they should do more to offer an alternative. What is the Republican stance anyways? If it is to leave the system alone,then say so.
If its to give all patients free chips and dip….then say so (I’ll take Fuego Takis myself).
In any case,the fact these Democrats are getting so uptight about people not wanting to lay down and take the Marxist spanking is silly.
Unfortunately,the universal Healthcare thing….whatever it is….will probably be passed. However,with enough people making noise about it….from the Tea Parties to Town Halls to Hannity’s Freedom Concerts and so on / we can look forward to the program and or whatever it is being repealed or disolved.
That’s the worst case scenario….it has not been passed yet so we can all still have hope.
Of course almost any American wants there to be Healthcare reform….but look at things like abortion. Whether or not you are for or against abortion its mostly a state to state issue. If there is a unviversal Healthcare system here in America…..all of our taxpaying dollars are fair game.
So you would possibly be paying for abortions and have no say in the matter! This is wrong whether you are Pro Life or Pro Choice.
Thats an extreme example,even a right wing lunatic such as myself will admit that……though its also very much in the realm of possible consequences of a Singe Payer System.
Of course at some point you will lose your Health Insurance at work,at least if you work for any kind of decent sized company! Why would a corporation pay for healthcare when it is free? Well not really free,but the people in business and Government whom are proposing all of these changes will not be on the same Public Option as the rest of us.
So what do they care? They don’t care! aND AM i THE only one whom has noticed how now they are calling it Health Insurance (or just Insurance) Reform more and more and getting away from calling it Healthcare Reform so much? Just like Global Warming became Climate Change,yet another item in the laundry list of the bullshit known as Political Correctness (which is really Incorrectness for the masses).
And what about no taxes for Americans making less than $250,000?
Did you whom voted for Obama really fall for that? You cannot honestly tell me that you thought Obama meant that when he said it on the campaign.
Of course we are all going to pay more taxes / the very rich will not see much of a change no matter what party is in power….they may pay a little more now yes,but not much and only enough so that the Dingy Harrys and Barney Frankfuters can save face.
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Thursday 06 August
By Doctor John
Lets be clear. I'm a physician. I'm an independent. I vote for the person not the party. However, I can't stand by watching this. Socialism actually has a wide array of definitions that the boob who wrote the article doesn't fully understand. Socialism is defined as various theories of economic organization advocating state, public or common worker ownership. But, hey if you have a brain and wound up here don't trust me look it up on-line as a definition. So, is this plan socialist? YES!
Social democrats advocate nationialization of select industries. Also (look it up)
Fascism opposes class conflict, blames capitalist liberal democracies for its creation and communists for exploiting the concept. (look it up yourself)
So, is it fascist? YES!
But, more to the point. You've heard people say its socialist, its fascist, its fine. Don't listen, don't pay attention. Ignore. Wow! In a country of freedom, "don't listen to other points of view or possibly even the facts?" Basically, "just trust us". I was personally told by a member of the health and hospital administration, that he met with obama and that this is going through. "Its like a frieght train. Don't get in the way. Just get on." The most famous government to tell their own people that was Nazi Germany.
The bill states that congress and the rest of the government "are exempt". Right there that should make everyone suspicious. Obama did not answer the question would you change your family to this plan. The plan which is meant to be a "choice" mandates that if you lose your health care for any reason you go on the plan and aren't allowed to come off. So, if you change your job you're on the plan. When you children reach age for their own, they go on the plan. This isn't an alternative or a choice, its a prolonged mandate. This will bankrupt the country according to the congressional budget office. And, what happens to prevent the bankrupcy in other countries? Limitations and mandates.
In Canada, once you hit the age of 70 no longer are you allowed to receive open heart surgery unless you "know someone" I have patients from the UK, Canada, and other countries. Stand up and be heard about this. Call your congressman. But, before you do, DON'T BELIEVE ME. DON'T BELIEVE THE AUTHOR OF THE ARTICLE OR ANY OTHER BLOGGER. LOOK IT UP YOURSELF. Then, when you wake up, call everyone, write it everywhere, post it on every board, and be rightfully angry at the media, the government members that are for this disaster and have your voices heard.
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Saturday 15 August
By t huntress
ronald reagan said long before he was president , that be careful of of a government program that is disguised as a medical program to help those who cant afford these things , for it is a form of socializm that we dont want....
and that was in the early 60s..,,where have the brains of this government
gone to..
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Thursday 20 August
By Bubba G.
One thing is for sure - if Obama's healthcare plan is not socialism, then it would have to be marxist or perhaps communistic. America is not that 'stupid' to borrow a word from the pompous one.
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Tuesday 25 August
By jimm
His health care plan is socialism........you know nothing.......you fail
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Thursday 03 September
By John
I think it's funny that you rant against people who don't define socialism, but do not provide a definition yourself. Socialism is many things --- some of which being strict Government regulation on trade, property belonging to the people and Government mandated systems to provide the "needs" of said people. Under this definition --- a Government mandated health care system does indeed qualify as such. I am neither Republican, nor Democrat --- so to say that I am poltically biased would be laughable. I am instead a student of historical research, ideological definition, economic science and pure logic. I do not let my emotions get involved in politics --- as I find that the most pressing argument the left brings up against my studies has been: "But don't you FEEL that we need such-and-such?"
Moral obligation is a personal matter. History has proven that Government systems are both more costly and less efficient. Case in point being that even the White House switched from the USPS to UPS because not only did they save more than 25% annually but they also found a much lesser chance of lost or broken packages.
If free enterprise were left along and not so heavily regulated by the Government, you would be able to find affordable health care by the natural law of competition alone. Yet nobody can say that Capitalism or true Free Enterprise is evil --- because, simply put, we've never seen it true to form.
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Tuesday 15 September
By Andrew Clunn
I've noticed that a lot of people are going to your blog from mine (because of the blog recommendations at the bottom.) I've just got to say, that all Americans should read the bill before they chime in (You have a duty to your country to be informed, not simply opinionated.)
You can hear the bill read over at http://www.hearthebill.org/ A wonderful site. I also want to personally state that Obama's plan is indeed socialism and it's a disgrace to this nation and a lie being sold to the American people based on guilt and false promises.
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Tuesday 22 September
By ed
Socialism or not. Marxism or not. I don't care what you call it or don't call it. It's hard enough to pay the health insurance for my family. Now your asking me to pay for my neighor's family health care too? That, by whatever name you want to call it, is just not right.
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Thursday 18 March
By Pete
I come from a country (in Scandinavia) where we have a governement run health care system. That system covers every citizen from birth to death. Our taxes (total tax burden for a citizen) are on the average on the same level as the the total tax burden for a citizen in the state of New York. (except for the very rich who pay a lot more taxes on average). We also have a private Healthcare system alongside the public. So you have a choice. The premiums aren't very high, since the private system has to compete with the governments system. That way they can't jack the rates up as they would perhaps like to. The companies in this country (big and small) have health insured their employees through private enterprises, so in a way you as a citizen have again a choice between private and public healthcare. Care is not denied for a pre-existing condition in neither system. Priorities are made based on what you need (the sickest are treated first, physicians decide) but the wealthiest can then use the private healthcare system, if they feel they are more in need. I think both our system(s) works fine. Ask David Beckham, he had an operation here recently.
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Sunday 21 March
By Mark
You need to pull your head out of the sand. I agree we need some reform in our health care, but not at the expense of those who currently have health care. Our current system doesn't work as it stands today. I pay a lot of money for my health care, but then i work hard for my money. I don't feel I should have to pay for someone who refuses to work. Read the proposed bill and if it doesn't send chills down your spine then yes you are a true Liberal. I have traveled all over this world and spent considerable time in countries with socialist medicine. Not one of them works as it should. If the bill passes, you will see 47 million more americans with insurance, many of whom do not pay taxes. You will see 1/3 or more of the doctors drop out of the medicare provider roles. Where are you going to get medical care? or better yet when will you get medical care? Wake up and get the facts.
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Monday 22 March
By Sage of Monticello
so·cial·ism [soh-shuh-liz-uhm]
1.
a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2.
procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3.
(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.
Highways are paid by from gas taxes, road tolls, and car taxes. Income tax does not pay for roads and highways. This is an elective tax paid for by those who use the system.
The Department of education is socialism. Please refer to the definition of socialism above.
I have yet to see a Federal Fire dept. So I do not follow the logic there. My Fire dept is funded by me and other local citizens providing donations to volunteers.
Any time the federal government pays for something, they stole it from somebody else, who earned that money.
Why does someone without healthcare have a right to my money that I earned to pay for them to get healthcare.
I do not have healthcare, but it is not my right to receive medical care. I may want it, but it is not my right, nor should someone else have to pay their hard earned money because I can't afford it. I want health care but I do not want to steal it from my fellow Americans.
Healthcare is so expensive because we have rampant inflation and rampant regulations.
Fix Healthcare by getting government out of it.
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Thursday 25 March
By Lexicographer
You sir are an idiot.
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